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Old 06-01-2016 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
The E175 is all AQP. Hard to fail!
Careful, I know new hires that somehow managed to mess up their SV/PVs, and several that have busted their MV's lately on single engine stuff. It's just a retrain day and do it over again but still.. doesn't look good and I'm sure you probably accrue training points and get yourself put on a list somewhere. Not sure if that puts them into "special tracking" or not. Might just be busting a QLOE that does that, I'm not sure. But I wouldn't want to find out.
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Old 06-01-2016 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mistek89
How is the training on the 145/700 in regarfs to not being AQP for the initial ?
175 AQP Training is basically the same all the way through up until the end and the checking events except for half of your days one week will be in the ground trainer sim. AQP oral is easier since it is not just an instructor asking you whatever random questions he wants, and AQP doesn't have a "type ride" that you have to perform perfectly with no errors and no ability to retrain.

AQP for the 175 has an SV for the Oral (systems validation). Its systems questions from a question bank/memory items/limitations. The traditional Oral, the instructor could ask you anything, it's all fair game. Much harder and more work to study for because they literally could ask you anything. AQP is not that way anymore which is nice.

After the SV, you go next door into the ground trainer, non motion computerized sim and do your PV (performance validation) I think is the term? You demonstrate that you know your flows and can perform a flight one leg. Showing you are ready for the sim.

(7) 4 hour sim sessions, then 2 more 4 hour events = MV/QLOE

AQP has an MV (manuever's validation), which is like all the the standard type ride stuff, but now it's done with a sim partner instead of an instructor pilot and the MV also has the ability to retrain 2 events, once. (time limiting).

QLOE is the qualifying event, it is basically just a line flight between 2 cities with a CA/FO paired up, 2 legs with some systems abnormals/low vis/a go around and possibly a need for a divert thrown in. Operate it just as you would as a crew in the real world. Much lower stress than a traditional "type ride".

Everything is changing to AQP but if you did have to go through the old program, it's not that bad. We have all done it that way for years. I have been through all 3. EMB hardest (ground/oral) for some reason they want you to know everything you don't "need" to know and memorize lots more useless numbers on the simplest of the 3 aircraft / CRJ easier more gentlemen's ground course / E175 Easiest ground/Oral by far but (hardest sim I thought, steeper learning curve, mostly unlearning everything from the other aircraft and transitioning to all the VNAV/auto throttle crap) but Easier lower stress check rides in the end.

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Old 06-01-2016 | 11:15 AM
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Old 06-01-2016 | 12:23 PM
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Would it be a risk to choose the crj in ground school ? Only reason I would guarantee an ORD base
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Old 06-01-2016 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mistek89
Would it be a risk to choose the crj in ground school ? Only reason I would guarantee an ORD base
What risk? It doesn't matter if is AQP or regular type ride, there's always risk of screwing something up.

I started in the E-145 back in 2010, supposedly it was harder than the CRJ. Transferred last year to the CRJ and the training was about the same. If you really want ord, go for it. It's a very complete training with great instructors. They will help you as far as you want to be helped, if in doubt never hesitate to ask questions.


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Old 06-01-2016 | 01:30 PM
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As far as risk, I was leaning towards the uncertainty of how long they will be on line.
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Old 06-01-2016 | 03:53 PM
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It's a valid concern, but if you get displaced you'll be able to displace to whatever seat/base you can hold. I realize it's not a thrilling prospect to face that risk, but there are very few people who make it through an aviation career without base, seat, equipment or even a company shot out from under them at least once.
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Old 06-01-2016 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mistek89
As far as risk, I was leaning towards the uncertainty of how long they will be on line.
Are you worried about not being able to stay in ORD if that happens?
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Old 06-02-2016 | 03:58 AM
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Let's not forget that yesterday was the one year anniversary for Charlie Bucket. First Officer Bucket only has 18 months left until he upgrades and 4.5 years left until he flows to AA.

Congratulations Charlie on getting hired at the premiere regional in the U.S. and for your pending upgrade and flow.
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Old 06-02-2016 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ag386
Let's not forget that yesterday was the one year anniversary for Charlie Bucket. First Officer Bucket only has 18 months left until he upgrades and 4.5 years left until he flows to AA.

Congratulations Charlie on getting hired at the premiere regional in the U.S. and for your pending upgrade and flow.
He's supposedly still on reserve, so the next 18 months should be quite a slingshot forward, especially 2017. Curiously though, others have also claimed he got a "talking to" by ALPA attorney's, whatever that means. I guess it's tough to have the golden ticket at the "premier regional" in the industry and not have all eyes on you monitoring and marking your impending meteoric success ?
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