New Envoy Information
#3581
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: forever fo
Posts: 2,413
Do what delta did with endevour. Copy deltaagain
#3583
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Joined APC: Oct 2007
Posts: 194
Great.
In reading this paragraph, in my opinion from what I've heard on forums and talking to Envoy pilots directly, your assessment of present Envoy seems to be the distinct minority. AFAIC, from my assessment, the ills you describe are not just "things management needs to do", but something far more systemic in their relationship with their pilots which to me appears quite dysfunctional. From past experience there (which sounds leaps and bounds better then the present), pilots lived up to 95% of their bargain with management and the reverse was less than 50%. I think management needs to FAR more then just to "wake up". But hey, sooner or later they WILL have no choice but to as their future is now assured. The pilots just aren't coming to regionals anymore and I think Envoy will be among the first to reach a crisis considering their present size and present feed responsibilities.
Good luck to you too. I think you'll need it.
In reading this paragraph, in my opinion from what I've heard on forums and talking to Envoy pilots directly, your assessment of present Envoy seems to be the distinct minority. AFAIC, from my assessment, the ills you describe are not just "things management needs to do", but something far more systemic in their relationship with their pilots which to me appears quite dysfunctional. From past experience there (which sounds leaps and bounds better then the present), pilots lived up to 95% of their bargain with management and the reverse was less than 50%. I think management needs to FAR more then just to "wake up". But hey, sooner or later they WILL have no choice but to as their future is now assured. The pilots just aren't coming to regionals anymore and I think Envoy will be among the first to reach a crisis considering their present size and present feed responsibilities.
Good luck to you too. I think you'll need it.
#3586
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Qualified to carry liquids through security.
Posts: 771
#3588
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Joined APC: Oct 2007
Posts: 194
We can actually partially thank PSA for why Endeavor has the retention payments. The two biggest benefactors to Endeavor's mass exodus were Compass and PSA and its what caused Endeavor to financially incentivize their pilots to not jump ship through the retention payments.
#3590
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: forever fo
Posts: 2,413
A vacancy/displacement bid is open eff <01 jul 2016
*vacancies* *enter training no later than*
<55 ord ca e75 <01 nov 17
<55 ord fo e75 <01 nov 17
<20 ord fo emj <01 nov 17
55 more captains, that will get us into 2010!!! 6 years is at least trending the right way!
*vacancies* *enter training no later than*
<55 ord ca e75 <01 nov 17
<55 ord fo e75 <01 nov 17
<20 ord fo emj <01 nov 17
55 more captains, that will get us into 2010!!! 6 years is at least trending the right way!
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