New Envoy Information
06-27-2016 | 03:37 PM
#3592
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If all these people on here are so bent on making garbage up to keep people away from Envoy like some great conspiracy where are they in another thread recently started in this forum?
Happens to be another thread trying to call out the worst training departments.
One would think these so called evil doers would show up there as well to spread all their lies and hate for poor Envoy. I don't see so much as a peep about Envoy though.
Seems to me that would be a great platform to spread all their lies and scare off any would be new hire.
Wonder why that is?
Could it be that just maybe these folks are simply stating the truth about Envoy? Could it be that Envoy is not known for any training issues?
Seems odd to me that not one mention of Envoy in that thread if these guys were hell bent on spreading lies and half truths about Envoy.
Seems to me you have a ton of tin foil hat conspiracy theory idiots on here making claims that all these people on here are one person with a personal vendetta to destroy an air carrier they may or may not work for anymore.
If I put my tin foil hat on like them I could assume the very same and point out several users here are all one person. Maybe some flunky flight attendant promoted into some middle management position who has no life and wants to parrot what her bosses say as if they are Gods.
Either way I do find it odd there is not a peep on that thread from these guys hell bent on destroying Envoy at all cost.
Happens to be another thread trying to call out the worst training departments.
One would think these so called evil doers would show up there as well to spread all their lies and hate for poor Envoy. I don't see so much as a peep about Envoy though.
Seems to me that would be a great platform to spread all their lies and scare off any would be new hire.
Wonder why that is?
Could it be that just maybe these folks are simply stating the truth about Envoy? Could it be that Envoy is not known for any training issues?
Seems odd to me that not one mention of Envoy in that thread if these guys were hell bent on spreading lies and half truths about Envoy.
Seems to me you have a ton of tin foil hat conspiracy theory idiots on here making claims that all these people on here are one person with a personal vendetta to destroy an air carrier they may or may not work for anymore.
If I put my tin foil hat on like them I could assume the very same and point out several users here are all one person. Maybe some flunky flight attendant promoted into some middle management position who has no life and wants to parrot what her bosses say as if they are Gods.
Either way I do find it odd there is not a peep on that thread from these guys hell bent on destroying Envoy at all cost.
06-27-2016 | 04:21 PM
#3593
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From: Feito no Brasil, CA
. They are working at fixed the flight file issue with aag. It's unfortunate but things take time. Even the 10 grand took 9 months to work through the system. There are many programs slowly going through the same process to address everything being posted about online.
Then the company and/or union need to step up and say what's happening, what's been accomplished and where we are in the process of improving working conditions.
What the frontline pilots see are worsening schedules preceded by halfhearted apologies from the union. The company doesn't even bother to send an apology or reason anymore. All we get are unilateral decisions made by management passed through the rumor mill that all PTO requests will be denied. They can't even put it in print. The is company refusing union leave to our reps to work on said lousy schedules. People are being fired for social media infractions. People being fired because the company wants to get rid of them. Step letters for situations that normally wouldn't be cause for anything more than a phone call. Switching to crappy hotels and being pulled from good ones against our union's requests and work.
And our union...
Everything I've gotten from the teleconferences has been what amounts to a feeling of resignation and defeat. The company is uninterested in improvements. Everything is stalled or drifting towards the negative with the company. The union itself seems listless and only interested in keeping their heads down.
This is what we see every day, and in my opinion I agree with the union's perspective that the company is not interested in making things better.
06-27-2016 | 05:08 PM
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I would be worried if I worked for Envoy and was posting here. IMO I would not put it past them to have you in their sights at this very moment.
I would not say anything on here that was not factual and easily proven. Keep everything to an opinion.
I have not heard of terminations for social media and other such actions, but from what I have heard over the years it would not suprise me.
I would not say anything on here that was not factual and easily proven. Keep everything to an opinion.
I have not heard of terminations for social media and other such actions, but from what I have heard over the years it would not suprise me.
06-27-2016 | 05:30 PM
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I would be worried if I worked for Envoy and was posting here. IMO I would not put it past them to have you in their sights at this very moment.
I would not say anything on here that was not factual and easily proven. Keep everything to an opinion.
I have not heard of terminations for social media and other such actions, but from what I have heard over the years it would not suprise me.
I would not say anything on here that was not factual and easily proven. Keep everything to an opinion.
I have not heard of terminations for social media and other such actions, but from what I have heard over the years it would not suprise me.
Just what is the definition of "factual" ?
Are the upgrade/flow claims included in that standard of factual information and should such employment executions be applied equally to those that mix fact and fiction there in the positive ?
Regardless, you do realize this post only makes Envoy look even worse to those who may be considering it for future employment and considering the potential impression, would Envoy's appearance improve if it became public knowledge that they started chopping their pilots heads off in ways other carriers aren't doing ? Perhaps along with that, a forced oath of Omertŕ would be thrust upon other Envoy pilots to not reveal some of their colleagues were "disappearing" ?
Personally, I think the more you post, the worse Envoy looks.
06-27-2016 | 05:34 PM
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I would be worried if I worked for Envoy and was posting here. IMO I would not put it past them to have you in their sights at this very moment.
I would not say anything on here that was not factual and easily proven. Keep everything to an opinion.
I have not heard of terminations for social media and other such actions, but from what I have heard over the years it would not suprise me.
I would not say anything on here that was not factual and easily proven. Keep everything to an opinion.
I have not heard of terminations for social media and other such actions, but from what I have heard over the years it would not suprise me.
06-27-2016 | 05:59 PM
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I bet he and his fellow managers are having a late night meeting tonight. the meeting is about if he should use all capitals when telling all of us to stop telling the truth about the company
06-28-2016 | 05:31 AM
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Thanks, so far I see ABQ, ALB, BDL, BNA, BUF, BWI, CLE, COU, DAY, DFW, DTW, ELP, EWR, GJT (via DFW?), HPN, IAH, JAN, JAX, LFT, LIT, MDT, MSN, MQT, OMS, PIT, PNS, PVD, ROC, SAT, SYR, and XNA. I am sure that I have missed some.
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