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Old 07-06-2016 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
That's pretty twisted, if you ask me.



But once again, yes, everything you perceive as a negative is unsubstantiated rumor, idle speculation or downright wrong, etc. It's OK, I expect nothing different from you. At least you're predictable.



Carry on my wayward son.


How about I twist it some more. I post both positive and negative here. The only time it gets twisted is when you disagree.

Funny, that.
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Old 07-06-2016 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
Yeah, keep hearing that from some captains on training but I don't think thats happening. Im willing to commute in order to fly the E175.
the SJS is strong with this one
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Old 07-06-2016 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
How about I twist it some more. I post both positive and negative here. The only time it gets twisted is when you disagree.

Funny, that.
To you, I'm sure it is. I'm confident if we analyzed our history here, the offensive thrown rock count would favor you by 5-1 over me. I tend post issues about Envoy and you tend to post responses about ME.

But hey, considering the realities there as this latest example all but demonstrates, SOMEONE here has to be your fall guy and resident pińata. Before you go off with one of your "poor little victim" rants regarding me, understand that would only be proving my point. But, if you must, you must......
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Old 07-06-2016 | 01:54 PM
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Sure, I'm much more direct in my dislike of your methods. It's no secret. I don't beat around the bush using words like buddy, cheerleader, usual suspects and your usual repertoire of question dodging .
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Old 07-06-2016 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
To you, I'm sure it is. I'm confident if we analyzed our history here, the offensive thrown rock count would favor you by 5-1 over me. I tend post issues about Envoy and you tend to post responses about ME.

But hey, considering the realities there as this latest example all but demonstrates, SOMEONE here has to be your fall guy and resident pińata. Before you go off with one of your "poor little victim" rants regarding me, understand that would only be proving my point. But, if you must, you must......
There is absolutely nothing factual about any E175 displacements as of now. If they wanted to displace to ORD it would be on the vacancy bid from a few days ago. But there is no displacements. The ORD 175 FO positions are all going to new hires. They are not having issues getting the 175 classes filled. They also just offered the last class $5,000 extra for anyone wanting to take the CRJ. Total of 30K in bonus money first year.

Source: I actually work here.
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Old 07-06-2016 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanP
There is absolutely nothing factual about any E175 displacements as of now. If they wanted to displace to ORD it would be on the vacancy bid from a few days ago. But there is no displacements. The ORD 175 FO positions are all going to new hires. They are not having issues getting the 175 classes filled. They also just offered the last class $5,000 extra for anyone wanting to take the CRJ. Total of 30K in bonus money first year.

Source: I actually work here.
As of now, correct. I've not represented anything different. Yes, a whopping 2 pilots took the cash for the CRJ....at least that was the rumor. I wonder how much more they'll offer for the E-145 ? 30K ? I thought it was 20K for CRJ drivers ?

Still not convinced anything has materially changed for Envoy. Even though you work there, we'll have to consider your assertions unsubstantiated just like the others who also claim to work there, but say things in opposition. After all, if the MikeFox can go by that philosophy, everyone else here should be able to as well. Thanks for your rumors......we will add them to the mix.
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Old 07-06-2016 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by highflyer1980
Update. Upper management went over said supervisors authority and granted him travel. However, they are interpreting the company rules to their own benefit. Even though he did call fatigue with legitimate reasons, and then seek authorization to travel as he should, supervisor denied him travel and said he was still on duty even though released for rest. Then recommended he should go to another airline to get home.

Wow. Just wow.
Said he should use another air carrier huh? Interesting. Not the first time I have heard the ORD CPO advising pilots of doing things they could get fired for. You guys need to start recording everything.

From the way I understand it, if you fly on another airline while you are out for any reason without approval, is grounds for your travel authorization to be revoked and could as well lead to termination.

Yup Envoy sounds like a swell place.

Bet the CPO would go up to bat when a pilot gets fired for that crap.
Just hope no bus is near bye if your that guy.
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Old 07-06-2016 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by None
Said he should use another air carrier huh? Interesting. Not the first time I have heard the ORD CPO advising pilots of doing things they could get fired for. You guys need to start recording everything.

From the way I understand it, if you fly on another airline while you are out for any reason without approval, is grounds for your travel authorization to be revoked and could as well lead to termination.

Yup Envoy sounds like a swell place.

Bet the CPO would go up to bat when a pilot gets fired for that crap.
Just hope no bus is near bye if your that guy.
Up to your 4th username from the same person today. At least you didn't respond to yourself this time.
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Old 07-06-2016 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
Sure, I'm much more direct in my dislike of your methods. It's no secret. I don't beat around the bush using words like buddy, cheerleader, usual suspects and your usual repertoire of question dodging .
I think you're dislike of my "methods" (whatever that means) is that they go against your self-serving interests and deep down, you believe they may be more effective then others. The reason you see me as "dodging questions" is you target me instead of the subject you seek to deflect, which simply validates my assertions you are obsessed with me instead of neutrally dealing with the issues that exist.
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Old 07-06-2016 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
I think you're dislike of my "methods" (whatever that means) is that they go against your self-serving interests and deep down, you believe they may be more effective then others. The reason you see me as "dodging questions" is you target me instead of the subject you seek to deflect, which simply validates my assertions you are obsessed with me instead of neutrally dealing with the issues that exist.


You should go into corporate PR. You excel at attempting to make BS true.



Trust in me...right? Keep trying.
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