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12-10-2018 | 01:39 PM
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That’s possible I guess depending on how much outside attrition occurs in the upper ranks of seniority (900 or less on DECS).
12-10-2018 | 05:48 PM
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12-10-2018 | 06:04 PM
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12-11-2018 | 05:03 AM
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I don't know about that chart "Years of Service at Flow". It's just like the 2.5 upgrade and sub 6 year flow RW predicted in May 2016. It won't happen unless the flow through increases for post protected pilots. The 2.5/6 would never of happened without the pay bump Envoy gave NHs in Fall of 2016.
I could see the projections working but not at the status quo we have now. The closer pilots are to flowing the less likely they are going to leave. Attrition at the top isn't going to be as much as they are calculating.
I could see the projections working but not at the status quo we have now. The closer pilots are to flowing the less likely they are going to leave. Attrition at the top isn't going to be as much as they are calculating.
12-11-2018 | 06:02 AM
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I don't know about that chart "Years of Service at Flow". It's just like the 2.5 upgrade and sub 6 year flow RW predicted in May 2016. It won't happen unless the flow through increases for post protected pilots. The 2.5/6 would never of happened without the pay bump Envoy gave NHs in Fall of 2016.
I could see the projections working but not at the status quo we have now. The closer pilots are to flowing the less likely they are going to leave. Attrition at the top isn't going to be as much as they are calculating.
I could see the projections working but not at the status quo we have now. The closer pilots are to flowing the less likely they are going to leave. Attrition at the top isn't going to be as much as they are calculating.
RW said in one of his recent Q and As that the company is planning on people hired now will flow in 4 1/2 years. That is a planning number that they at least are not advertising. He didn’t say how they come up with that. The union page indicates new hires at about 8 3/4 years or almost twice as long. Quite a disparity. And I don’t see how they can possibly come up with those numbers. Like you said that would take a lot of non flows and outside flow attrition or Envoy increasing the flow. As much as they have fought and drug their feet to keep the flow down, I just don’t see that happening either. I would like to see it happen, but I just don’t think so.
12-11-2018 | 07:19 AM
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I thought flow was going to be metered to 15 after the protracted pilots? How is the projection still 300+ pilots for next year?
12-11-2018 | 07:40 AM
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The last protected pilot is expected to flow in DEC 2019 according to the alpa seniority list.
12-11-2018 | 08:48 AM
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12-11-2018 | 09:05 AM
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Nov 2016 hires are showing a flow date of Jan or feb 2022.
12-11-2018 | 09:41 AM
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None of this makes sense. 1500 pilots junior to you would put you around a 950 seniority number, which would mean you’re less than 3 years away from flow.
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