So what’s the word on Envoy losing its EOW cert for 3 years.


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The word is only being heard from Republic Pilots… So no idea where it came from

why only for 3 years

Because the person who made it up decided 3 years sounded good to them.

New flow plan out. Either there is going to be A LOT of pilots sitting around doing nothing for a while or the 145s are going to leave slower than projected.

Does it consider the numbers of pilots current being hired by the other majors?

No. That would take WAY too much into account. The only thing it considers is training slots and the contractual hierarchy of who goes in what order.

I think there will indeed be quite a few sitting around. But you do have to consider that there are some who will never make it to training because of their retirement/flow/resignation.

AFAIK, there has been no official announcement about when the 145s will be gone in ORD. They may end up sending pilots back there TDY from DFW to cover it depending who is still available based on the training order and draw down.

The other interesting part is the Air Wisconsin part. They have 60 planes, which is more than ENY has 145s. I think they will have to push some of those planes down to DFW, even though that has not been talked about either.

Hey guys, got a CJO back in June and still heard nothing from envoy for a training date. Drug test/fingerprints were done and they asked for some papers last month but still no start date. Hate being in the dark. When do you think they'll come around?

That's a mighty fine question!I got hired did my drug test, fingerprints and Captain's board signed the employment contract and went to ATP two months ago and I'm still sitting here in the dark. They will only return about 1 and 5 of my emails and all they will say is"don't quit your current job"! No time line, no window.... No nothing.

I’m curious in the legal world how enforceable a employment contract would be if they failed to employ you in a timely fashion. I’m thinking after 3 months you would be free to explore other options, but I’m not a lawyer. Yes, they paid for ATP-CTP, but the court would not look favorably on not getting a pay check for months. Sort of like non-compete contracts, they can’t stop you from making a living but you have to fight it. You’d blow through 5K on a lawyer anyway.