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Old 01-26-2013 | 07:53 AM
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I've been using it, I like it a lot. As for holding up, we'll see I guess.
Old 01-27-2013 | 08:49 AM
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What's up with doing 700/900 training, then being forced to finish your schedule on the 200. Are we partial dual qual now? Contract says:

C. Dual Qualification

The following examples will be considered separate single aircraft types:
a. CR7andCR9
b. CR2
c. AT7
A pilot (excluding instructor pilots, supervisory pilots, management pilots and administrative pilots) will only be required to maintain qualification on one (1) aircraft type as described above.
Old 01-27-2013 | 09:44 AM
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Loophole that your ALPA reps elected not to fight to close.
Old 01-27-2013 | 10:10 AM
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You only have to finish what you were awarded. You shouldn't get any more 200 flying after you are done with training if I understand it correctly.
Old 01-27-2013 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks
Loophole that your ALPA reps elected not to fight to close.
What he said. Totally ridiculous that our "union" has chosen not to fight this, which is clearly dual qual. These amateurs who call themselves reps clearly don't understand precedent and how it effects you in negotiations. Unless their goal is to slowly move us toward dual qual, which I strongly suspect.
Old 01-27-2013 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks
Loophole that your ALPA reps elected not to fight to close.
What he said. Totally ridiculous that our "union" has chosen not to fight this, which is clearly dual qual. These amateurs who call themselves reps clearly don't understand precedent and how it effects you in negotiations. Unless their goal is to slowly move us toward dual qual, which I strongly suspect.
They've probably already conceded dual qual in the joint contract negotiations.
Old 01-27-2013 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MoarAlpha:1340123
You only have to finish what you were awarded. You shouldn't get any more 200 flying after you are done with training if I understand it correctly.
How can I finish what I'm awarded when I am newly qualified on another type? The contract clearly says line pilots only have to maintain qualification on one type. My 200 sked left over should be dropped to open time and then a 700/900 sked built for the the remainder of the month.

Where is the loophole that allows the partial dual qual? I searched all around the contract and can't find it
Old 01-27-2013 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
How can I finish what I'm awarded when I am newly qualified on another type? The contract clearly says line pilots only have to maintain qualification on one type. My 200 sked left over should be dropped to open time and then a 700/900 sked built for the the remainder of the month.

Where is the loophole that allows the partial dual qual? I searched all around the contract and can't find it
If the reps won't fight it there is not much you can do about it. You can try to grieve it but those same reps will throw it out. Just vote them out next time the vote comes up.
Old 01-27-2013 | 02:47 PM
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[QUOTE=Trip7;1340249]
Originally Posted by MoarAlpha:1340123
Where is the loophole that allows the partial dual qual? I searched all around the contract and can't find it
Section 24.K

You go to your new position on the effective date, remaining in your current position until then. There are exceptions for when consolidation would be interrupted, but that only applies to initial qualification, not differences. You are not maintaining qualification on two types, but your qualification hasn't yet lapsed for the old position.
Old 01-27-2013 | 02:53 PM
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What if you have a 200 trip that spills over into the first 3 days of March when the 700 effective date is the 1st? Haha
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