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Old 05-22-2013, 09:54 AM
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I don't know why all this hate directed at management. It's your union leaders that has stalled negotiations with the endless fighting between MECs.
I think he is just referencing how the 900's were used during the last bargaining process. Granted that both MEC's had their shortcomings but this does not mean that they shouldn't negotiate for a good contract for the pilot group. You still work here right? Are you telling me that there aren't things in our current contract that you would like to see changed?

There's plenty for me and it doesn't have to be in the form of a pay raise. I'll keep the current rates, nothing lower. If anything, seeing as how most of us will probably have mainline upgrade times here, they need to increase the pay cap on the FO side by a few more years - say about 10th year. I would like to see more hard language written into the contract and not the company can, shall, could, would, should or whatever else is there. I don't know if this could be done but there has to be something written in the contract for the grievance process as well. It should be resolved in two weeks and nothing longer than that time period. There are others but you get the picture.

Management needs to look at all other areas of the operation to be cost competitive than its front line employees.
Sure there are a few things I'd like to see get changed like calling after you complete your reserve assignment but overall I'm 95% good with our current contract. Let's patch up a few things, get some growth, and get the upgrades and attrition going. Bumping FO longevity pay up to 10 years? Come on, this is a regional.
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"For those of you who didn't get the union update:

Yesterday SkyWest Inc. announced that it has entered into an agreement with Embraer for a firm order of 100 EMB-175 aircraft and an option for an additional 100 EMB-175 airframes to be exercised at a later date. ExpressJet President and COO Brad Holt, in a memo to all ExpressJet employees, stated that 40 of the firm 100 EMB-175 aircraft will be operated by SkyWest Airlines under a 12-year CPA with United Airlines.

 

The addition of the EMB-175 to the SkyWest Inc. portfolio opens up new opportunities to secure future flying with any of ExpressJet’s three mainline partners. American, Delta, and United all have new scope language that must be evaluated and analyzed for potential placement of 76-seat dual class aircraft. Mr. Holt claims that these aircraft are not currently destined for ExpressJet due to uncertainty associated with the cost to operate the aircraft. He stressed that with multiple labor groups engaged in contract negotiations it is difficult to accurately forecast the costs associated with operating a new airframe and thus makes the process of strategically bidding on the flying difficult.

 

The ASA MEC is fully committed to securing a JCBA that allow for improved cost and operational efficiencies for ExpressJet. However, the ASA MEC remains dedicated to protecting pilot quality of life and benefits throughout this process. It is encouraging that the placement of the remaining balance of the firm order is unknown. This highlights the positive opportunities that are on the horizon for ExpressJet pilots. It is this positive opportunity that continues to keep the ASA MEC engaged and working aggressively with the XJT MEC and Company to conclude JCBA negotiations in a fashion that rewards the contributions of all ExpressJet pilots and provides financial and operational stability for the company."
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Originally Posted by Hurryage65 View Post
I hope it's a lubed carrot
Awe, man.... that's just nasty!!
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7 View Post
Bumping FO longevity pay up to 10 years? Come on, this is a regional.
Yes it is a regional and I understand the regional model. Every year, regardless of years of service, people in management positions get a percentage raise. I am not asking for their pay or their percentage, since I'm not doing their work (whatever "work" that might be).

All I am saying is that a lot of us have been sitting right seat for a while and might continue to do so. If that is the case, bump the FO longevity up anywhere between 2-5% till 10 years. I'm sure that the company can afford that since the pay raises for management is usually more every year. Not only will this benefit us if we don't upgrade, this will also help those that are below us.
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Originally Posted by ross9238 View Post
Yes it is a regional and I understand the regional model. Every year, regardless of years of service, people in management positions get a percentage raise. I am not asking for their pay or their percentage, since I'm not doing their work (whatever "work" that might be).

All I am saying is that a lot of us have been sitting right seat for a while and might continue to do so. If that is the case, bump the FO longevity up anywhere between 2-5% till 10 years. I'm sure that the company can afford that since the pay raises for management is usually more every year. Not only will this benefit us if we don't upgrade, this will also help those that are below us.
you are really generalizing here. Not true in the real world. Especially in the private sector.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ross9238:1413916
Originally Posted by Trip7 View Post
I don't know why all this hate directed at management. It's your union leaders that has stalled negotiations with the endless fighting between MECs.
I think he is just referencing how the 900's were used during the last bargaining process. Granted that both MEC's had their shortcomings but this does not mean that they shouldn't negotiate for a good contract for the pilot group. You still work here right? Are you telling me that there aren't things in our current contract that you would like to see changed?

There's plenty for me and it doesn't have to be in the form of a pay raise. I'll keep the current rates, nothing lower. If anything, seeing as how most of us will probably have mainline upgrade times here, they need to increase the pay cap on the FO side by a few more years - say about 10th year. I would like to see more hard language written into the contract and not the company can, shall, could, would, should or whatever else is there. I don't know if this could be done but there has to be something written in the contract for the grievance process as well. It should be resolved in two weeks and nothing longer than that time period. There are others but you get the picture.

Management needs to look at all other areas of the operation to be cost competitive than its front line employees.
Sure there are a few things I'd like to see get changed like calling after you complete your reserve assignment but overall I'm 95% good with our current contract. Let's patch up a few things, get some growth, and get the upgrades and attrition going. Bumping FO longevity pay up to 10 years? Come on, this is a regional.
This would probably be a concession to the majority of ExpressJet pilots. But I know management would jump on your idea.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by somertime32 View Post
There won't be a door anyway. It will be sold off to remain "cost competitive".

lol

nice
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I just got done with recurrent training, and the ALPA word when we had lunch that our dues paid for said that we will have a TA to vote on within 90-100 days. The PBS/scheduling thing is worked out, and they were meeting with the company on Friday and Monday (most recently) to discuss financials.
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85 View Post
I just got done with recurrent training, and the ALPA word when we had lunch that our dues paid for said that we will have a TA to vote on within 90-100 days. The PBS/scheduling thing is worked out, and they were meeting with the company on Friday and Monday (most recently) to discuss financials.
That would be good.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85 View Post
I just got done with recurrent training, and the ALPA word when we had lunch that our dues paid for said that we will have a TA to vote on within 90-100 days. The PBS/scheduling thing is worked out, and they were meeting with the company on Friday and Monday (most recently) to discuss financials.
Unfortunately the contract seems to always be 90 days out.... Any other details.....rumors?.... What is the PBS thing?
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