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Old 05-22-2013 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Bumping FO longevity pay up to 10 years? Come on, this is a regional.
Yes it is a regional and I understand the regional model. Every year, regardless of years of service, people in management positions get a percentage raise. I am not asking for their pay or their percentage, since I'm not doing their work (whatever "work" that might be).

All I am saying is that a lot of us have been sitting right seat for a while and might continue to do so. If that is the case, bump the FO longevity up anywhere between 2-5% till 10 years. I'm sure that the company can afford that since the pay raises for management is usually more every year. Not only will this benefit us if we don't upgrade, this will also help those that are below us.
Old 05-22-2013 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ross9238
Yes it is a regional and I understand the regional model. Every year, regardless of years of service, people in management positions get a percentage raise. I am not asking for their pay or their percentage, since I'm not doing their work (whatever "work" that might be).

All I am saying is that a lot of us have been sitting right seat for a while and might continue to do so. If that is the case, bump the FO longevity up anywhere between 2-5% till 10 years. I'm sure that the company can afford that since the pay raises for management is usually more every year. Not only will this benefit us if we don't upgrade, this will also help those that are below us.
you are really generalizing here. Not true in the real world. Especially in the private sector.
Old 05-22-2013 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ross9238:1413916
Originally Posted by Trip7
I don't know why all this hate directed at management. It's your union leaders that has stalled negotiations with the endless fighting between MECs.
I think he is just referencing how the 900's were used during the last bargaining process. Granted that both MEC's had their shortcomings but this does not mean that they shouldn't negotiate for a good contract for the pilot group. You still work here right? Are you telling me that there aren't things in our current contract that you would like to see changed?

There's plenty for me and it doesn't have to be in the form of a pay raise. I'll keep the current rates, nothing lower. If anything, seeing as how most of us will probably have mainline upgrade times here, they need to increase the pay cap on the FO side by a few more years - say about 10th year. I would like to see more hard language written into the contract and not the company can, shall, could, would, should or whatever else is there. I don't know if this could be done but there has to be something written in the contract for the grievance process as well. It should be resolved in two weeks and nothing longer than that time period. There are others but you get the picture.

Management needs to look at all other areas of the operation to be cost competitive than its front line employees.
Sure there are a few things I'd like to see get changed like calling after you complete your reserve assignment but overall I'm 95% good with our current contract. Let's patch up a few things, get some growth, and get the upgrades and attrition going. Bumping FO longevity pay up to 10 years? Come on, this is a regional.
This would probably be a concession to the majority of ExpressJet pilots. But I know management would jump on your idea.
Old 05-22-2013 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by somertime32
There won't be a door anyway. It will be sold off to remain "cost competitive".

lol

nice
Old 05-22-2013 | 03:44 PM
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I just got done with recurrent training, and the ALPA word when we had lunch that our dues paid for said that we will have a TA to vote on within 90-100 days. The PBS/scheduling thing is worked out, and they were meeting with the company on Friday and Monday (most recently) to discuss financials.
Old 05-22-2013 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
I just got done with recurrent training, and the ALPA word when we had lunch that our dues paid for said that we will have a TA to vote on within 90-100 days. The PBS/scheduling thing is worked out, and they were meeting with the company on Friday and Monday (most recently) to discuss financials.
That would be good.
Old 05-22-2013 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
I just got done with recurrent training, and the ALPA word when we had lunch that our dues paid for said that we will have a TA to vote on within 90-100 days. The PBS/scheduling thing is worked out, and they were meeting with the company on Friday and Monday (most recently) to discuss financials.
Unfortunately the contract seems to always be 90 days out.... Any other details.....rumors?.... What is the PBS thing?
Old 05-22-2013 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
I just got done with recurrent training, and the ALPA word when we had lunch that our dues paid for said that we will have a TA to vote on within 90-100 days. The PBS/scheduling thing is worked out, and they were meeting with the company on Friday and Monday (most recently) to discuss financials.
90-100 days... I heard the same thing... A Year Ago!
Old 05-22-2013 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
I just got done with recurrent training, and the ALPA word when we had lunch that our dues paid for said that we will have a TA to vote on within 90-100 days. The PBS/scheduling thing is worked out, and they were meeting with the company on Friday and Monday (most recently) to discuss financials.
I hope they meant TA well before then, roadshows, then we vote 90-100 days from now and not TA announced 90-100 days from now.
Old 05-22-2013 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
I just got done with recurrent training, and the ALPA word when we had lunch that our dues paid for said that we will have a TA to vote on within 90-100 days. The PBS/scheduling thing is worked out, and they were meeting with the company on Friday and Monday (most recently) to discuss financials.
I think the record player is broken. Heard this same thing the last two times I was in recurrent.
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