What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
#3091
Are the new hires who are sitting on reserve flying their minimums, if not how many hours on average are they getting per month? Also, is it the same on the CRJ vs the ERJ?
#3093
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Jan - 95 hrs
Feb - 92 hrs
Mar - 102 hrs
Apr - 106 hrs
Jan and Feb are supposedly our slowest months, and I want to fly so I'm fairly aggressive at picking up whatever I can...
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So, can some one back me up on this...?
From what it sounds like:
The 145's and 200's are getting old. Carrying tons of MEL's as well as CPA's that are going to expire sooner then later.
XJT has no such airplanes to replace them (i.e 175's or CR7-9's)... According to the company because there is no contract, so XJT couldn't make an offer.
XJT is opening up new bases in IAD, DEN, and MCI. But those are just long over due for routes the company already had.
ExpressJet is hiring, but supposedly can't fill the classes... Rumor has it of the last group of 48, only 30 or so showed up...
Finally, and this is the latest RUMOR. Supposedly the company has gone to United and asked them to NOT hire from XJT, knowing that they can't keep the airline staffed for the summer flying.
This is my limited understanding of what is going on... Does anyone have anything to add? To me it sounds like its gonna get pretty rough and stagnant at Express.
From what it sounds like:
The 145's and 200's are getting old. Carrying tons of MEL's as well as CPA's that are going to expire sooner then later.
XJT has no such airplanes to replace them (i.e 175's or CR7-9's)... According to the company because there is no contract, so XJT couldn't make an offer.
XJT is opening up new bases in IAD, DEN, and MCI. But those are just long over due for routes the company already had.
ExpressJet is hiring, but supposedly can't fill the classes... Rumor has it of the last group of 48, only 30 or so showed up...
Finally, and this is the latest RUMOR. Supposedly the company has gone to United and asked them to NOT hire from XJT, knowing that they can't keep the airline staffed for the summer flying.
This is my limited understanding of what is going on... Does anyone have anything to add? To me it sounds like its gonna get pretty rough and stagnant at Express.
#3095
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I doubt United would listen to that request anyway, other airlines could make the same request and then your pool of options gets pretty small. XJT represents over 4000 pilots, no carrier is going to restrict their options by that much.
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Finally, and this is the latest RUMOR. Supposedly the company has gone to United and asked them to NOT hire from XJT, knowing that they can't keep the airline staffed for the summer flying.
This is my limited understanding of what is going on... Does anyone have anything to add? To me it sounds like its gonna get pretty rough and stagnant at Express.
This is my limited understanding of what is going on... Does anyone have anything to add? To me it sounds like its gonna get pretty rough and stagnant at Express.
Sure, UAL doesn't hire from UAX carries. So when DAL and AA start hiring, they can pick up UAX pilots. And in return, DAL and AA start hiring and they can pick up UAX pilots, but not hire from their own regional carrier.
It'll be mutually assured destruction at the regional feed level.
Is it hard to understand how asinine that "rumor" is? Never mind that the CRJ side of ExpressJet only has a small slice of UAX operations, while the ERJ side is ALL UAX operations. What is the company going to tell UAL, (get past the sarcastic humor and think LOGICALLY for a second) "you can hire a pilot, as long as he's CRJ". And in turn, go to Delta and say "you can hire a pilot, just not a CRJ pilot".
What is SkyWest going to tell UAL? "you can hire this pilot, he's SLC based and does mostly DelCon, even though he COULD fly UAX once in a while. DON'T hire this ORD/DEN/LAX based pilot, he flies UAX, even though he could fly DelCon, AE, USAir, and Alaska regional feed" etc etc etc...........
Unless restricted by an FTA, an airline is going to hire who they want to hire, in the numbers they see fit.
#3097
I remember back in the day, Comair was in the end game of negotiations, and management parked an E170 on the CVG ramp for a dog and pony show. The pilots were told management was "very interested" in the airplane, and "could get it" except that they were currently not cost competitive for the award. The union worked with management to expedite the contract (took concessions), and as soon as the contract was signed, management turned around and told them they hadn't "won the award". The same will happen here.
You NEVER ever bid on phantom airplanes!
You NEVER ever bid on phantom airplanes!
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Absolutely correct Tony. While we do need a new contract for many reasons, the possibility of a new aircraft type ain't one of 'em!
#3099
I remember back in the day, Comair was in the end game of negotiations, and management parked an E170 on the CVG ramp for a dog and pony show. The pilots were told management was "very interested" in the airplane, and "could get it" except that they were currently not cost competitive for the award. The union worked with management to expedite the contract (took concessions), and as soon as the contract was signed, management turned around and told them they hadn't "won the award". The same will happen here.
You NEVER ever bid on phantom airplanes!
You NEVER ever bid on phantom airplanes!
I have faith the union can get this contract done soon with very modest pay increases while retaining our QOL.
#3100
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Apples to Oranges. ExpressJet is not Comair. ExpressJet is not owned by Delta. History with Jerry has shown if you play ball you will prosper. If you don't, planes will continue to go to Skywest Airlines.
I have faith the union can get this contract done soon with very modest pay increases while retaining our QOL.
I have faith the union can get this contract done soon with very modest pay increases while retaining our QOL.
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