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Old 05-23-2013 | 10:18 AM
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Are the new hires who are sitting on reserve flying their minimums, if not how many hours on average are they getting per month? Also, is it the same on the CRJ vs the ERJ?
Old 05-23-2013 | 10:34 AM
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Are the new hires who are sitting on reserve flying their minimums, if not how many hours on average are they getting per month? Also, is it the same on the CRJ vs the ERJ?
Doing regular reserve I flew alot, doing "nap" reserve I barely flew at all. CRJ side
Old 05-23-2013 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PittsDriver
Are the new hires who are sitting on reserve flying their minimums, if not how many hours on average are they getting per month? Also, is it the same on the CRJ vs the ERJ?
For me on the ERJ side my last 4 months looked like this (credit of course)

Jan - 95 hrs
Feb - 92 hrs
Mar - 102 hrs
Apr - 106 hrs

Jan and Feb are supposedly our slowest months, and I want to fly so I'm fairly aggressive at picking up whatever I can...
Old 05-23-2013 | 08:49 PM
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So, can some one back me up on this...?

From what it sounds like:

The 145's and 200's are getting old. Carrying tons of MEL's as well as CPA's that are going to expire sooner then later.

XJT has no such airplanes to replace them (i.e 175's or CR7-9's)... According to the company because there is no contract, so XJT couldn't make an offer.

XJT is opening up new bases in IAD, DEN, and MCI. But those are just long over due for routes the company already had.

ExpressJet is hiring, but supposedly can't fill the classes... Rumor has it of the last group of 48, only 30 or so showed up...

Finally, and this is the latest RUMOR. Supposedly the company has gone to United and asked them to NOT hire from XJT, knowing that they can't keep the airline staffed for the summer flying.

This is my limited understanding of what is going on... Does anyone have anything to add? To me it sounds like its gonna get pretty rough and stagnant at Express.
Old 05-24-2013 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Corndawg88
To me it sounds like its gonna get pretty rough and stagnant at Express.
Par for the course, nothing new. United has stopped hiring for the summer anyway.
I doubt United would listen to that request anyway, other airlines could make the same request and then your pool of options gets pretty small. XJT represents over 4000 pilots, no carrier is going to restrict their options by that much.
Old 05-24-2013 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Corndawg88
XJT has no such airplanes to replace them (i.e 175's or CR7-9's)... According to the company because there is no contract, so XJT couldn't make an offer.
They could make an offer, which is why the larger cabin AC went to the arbitration so quickly.

Originally Posted by Corndawg88
Finally, and this is the latest RUMOR. Supposedly the company has gone to United and asked them to NOT hire from XJT, knowing that they can't keep the airline staffed for the summer flying.

This is my limited understanding of what is going on... Does anyone have anything to add? To me it sounds like its gonna get pretty rough and stagnant at Express.
This type of stuff ALWAYS cracks me up.

Sure, UAL doesn't hire from UAX carries. So when DAL and AA start hiring, they can pick up UAX pilots. And in return, DAL and AA start hiring and they can pick up UAX pilots, but not hire from their own regional carrier.

It'll be mutually assured destruction at the regional feed level.

Is it hard to understand how asinine that "rumor" is? Never mind that the CRJ side of ExpressJet only has a small slice of UAX operations, while the ERJ side is ALL UAX operations. What is the company going to tell UAL, (get past the sarcastic humor and think LOGICALLY for a second) "you can hire a pilot, as long as he's CRJ". And in turn, go to Delta and say "you can hire a pilot, just not a CRJ pilot".

What is SkyWest going to tell UAL? "you can hire this pilot, he's SLC based and does mostly DelCon, even though he COULD fly UAX once in a while. DON'T hire this ORD/DEN/LAX based pilot, he flies UAX, even though he could fly DelCon, AE, USAir, and Alaska regional feed" etc etc etc...........

Originally Posted by spudskier
I doubt United would listen to that request anyway, other airlines could make the same request and then your pool of options gets pretty small. XJT represents over 4000 pilots, no carrier is going to restrict their options by that much.
Unless restricted by an FTA, an airline is going to hire who they want to hire, in the numbers they see fit.
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I remember back in the day, Comair was in the end game of negotiations, and management parked an E170 on the CVG ramp for a dog and pony show. The pilots were told management was "very interested" in the airplane, and "could get it" except that they were currently not cost competitive for the award. The union worked with management to expedite the contract (took concessions), and as soon as the contract was signed, management turned around and told them they hadn't "won the award". The same will happen here.

You NEVER ever bid on phantom airplanes!
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Absolutely correct Tony. While we do need a new contract for many reasons, the possibility of a new aircraft type ain't one of 'em!
Old 05-25-2013 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
I remember back in the day, Comair was in the end game of negotiations, and management parked an E170 on the CVG ramp for a dog and pony show. The pilots were told management was "very interested" in the airplane, and "could get it" except that they were currently not cost competitive for the award. The union worked with management to expedite the contract (took concessions), and as soon as the contract was signed, management turned around and told them they hadn't "won the award". The same will happen here.

You NEVER ever bid on phantom airplanes!
Apples to Oranges. ExpressJet is not Comair. ExpressJet is not owned by Delta. History with Jerry has shown if you play ball you will prosper. If you don't, planes will continue to go to Skywest Airlines.

I have faith the union can get this contract done soon with very modest pay increases while retaining our QOL.
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Apples to Oranges. ExpressJet is not Comair. ExpressJet is not owned by Delta. History with Jerry has shown if you play ball you will prosper. If you don't, planes will continue to go to Skywest Airlines.

I have faith the union can get this contract done soon with very modest pay increases while retaining our QOL.
What might be a modest pay raise to you could be a pay cut for me. A couple more bucks an hour for me with your 401k, medical, sick time, trip trading flexibility, soft time pay, etc. I am not voting for your modest pay raise so that I can lose any more money on this job. I turned down ASA back in 2006 when they were begging me to interview because their total compensation was not as good as places like XJT and AWAC (not to mention they were losing planes to SKW mainline). Stop thinking that singing a 3% raise is going to get you into a 175 by this time next year. Get married and have a kid and then lets see how cool you are with just a "modest" raise while our customers make record profits. The regional airlines are not viable business and we need to stop keeping these zombie companies alive with perpetual concessions. Take your modest pay raise and use it as you would toilet paper. I'd rather go unemployed then work under ASA's contract with a "modest" pay raise.
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