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Old 07-19-2012 | 04:17 PM
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Agreed. I'm honestly getting a little sick of this whole thread turning into a your PBS vs our Line bidding debate. That's been discussed ad nauseam on the pipe and I'm at the point where I just don't care to hear any more about it. I mean, feel free to continue debating but you are certainly not changing each other's minds.

I'd much rather look forward to what we can do together. I went to the ERJ side about 8 months ago hoping that within 2 years I could be based in Atlanta where I live. Now, what looked like a sure thing to have a TA by the end of the year has turned into a "all parties are stepping back to re-evaluate" kind of situation. I'm just worried I'm going to be stuck commuting forever.

Anyway, continue if you must, but maybe there are more constructive things we can discuss.
It will probably be years til you get an Atlanta base. 1. This contract will be a miracle if it gets signed in a year or two. 2. There will be fences on equipment for cost savings (training). Only if the ERJ starts a base in Atlanta, witch I'd highly doubt, could you be in Atlanta, and that's if your seniority could hold it. Too bad we are not all just one equipment type... and too bad there are too many of us who think they are at mainline and deserve an industry leading contract...
Old 07-19-2012 | 06:45 PM
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WE deserve a better contract then we have.
Old 07-19-2012 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT
Hmm... nice sarcasm/attitude. If it's such a "revelation " then why do you keep talking about it. No one cares or asked about your trip touching, it's assumed already. My point to you was simple, anything vacation related is hated, period. Now I'm going to finish this with a role eyes
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Maybe it's because you suck at writing. Here let me fix the sentence for you. "My point to you was that you suck AT reading as well."

Anyways, cheers
Dude. Seriously. If you're going to get onto people for an error then you'd better not have any yourself.

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Old 07-19-2012 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by supersix-4
WE deserve a better contract then we have.
I am completely playing devils advocate here. Can you please explain WHY, as it relates to the current regional industry at this time?
Old 07-19-2012 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Red97Vette
It will probably be years til you get an Atlanta base. 1. This contract will be a miracle if it gets signed in a year or two. 2. There will be fences on equipment for cost savings (training). Only if the ERJ starts a base in Atlanta, witch I'd highly doubt, could you be in Atlanta, and that's if your seniority could hold it. Too bad we are not all just one equipment type... and too bad there are too many of us who think they are at mainline and deserve an industry leading contract...
While I agree with most of what you say, the ATL base thing is not necessarily true. The CRJ side of the house is currently training new hires. IF, and of course it's a big if, the SLI is not truely years away as some say, a current ERJ pilot may have the opportunity to move to ATL as an FO once the SLI is done. I am pretty sure the ASA side has dozens of pilots willing to do base trades. And I would be shocked if the fences protect FO's.

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Old 07-19-2012 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8rking
I am completely playing devils advocate here. Can you please explain WHY, as it relates to the current regional industry at this time?
Industry-leading economies of scale...which won't be realized until the merger is totally complete.
Old 07-19-2012 | 10:36 PM
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Industry-leading economies of scale...which won't be realized until the merger is totally complete.
Ok. I agree. Once we are one big happy family and those metrics come into play, if we take a big or moderate raise, won't that off-set our advantage from ecomies of scale? Once again, I'm trying to play devils advocate.

I'm about 99% sure the reason XJET was purchased and merged with ASA was to see those efficiencies.
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Originally Posted by SuperPilotJesse
Dude. Seriously. If you're going to get onto people for an error then you'd better not have any yourself.

If you don't know how to spell - don't correct ANYONE.

JustAnotherPLT - I'm talking to you. Just in case you were confused.
Hey, awesome man, good find. Here's a high five and a slap on the @ss. I picked up that you were talking to me when you quoted me, but thanks for clarifying.
Old 07-20-2012 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Av8rking
While I agree with most of what you say, the ATL base thing is not necessarily true. The CRJ side of the house is currently training new hires. IF, and of course it's a big if, the SLI is not truely years away as some say, a current ERJ pilot may have the opportunity to move to ATL as an FO once the SLI is done. I am pretty sure the ASA side has dozens of pilots willing to do base trades. And I would be shocked if the fences protect FO's.
the only problem is that he is already XJET (ERJ), if they have fences on aircraft, and there are no ERJ in ATL, how can he get awarded CRJ ATL if we have an SLI? He might be able to hold ATL, but if there are no ERJ in ATL, it would be a no-go. He would have to wait til the fence came down and the company allowed jumping equipment. We saw what happened at pinnacle...

In the past if the company is hiring and you are already on another airplane, they can choose to "bypass" your bid. The compensation is that if the plane you bid to, and if the company is hiring on to it, is that you get paid as if you were on the plane you wanted. But you stay where you are, thus saving the company training costs. Sucks.
Old 07-20-2012 | 06:12 AM
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I doubt you will see fences. Just state that you can only move around if there is an opening that way nobody will be kicked out of their base or seat.
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