What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
09-14-2014 | 04:29 PM
#7331
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Oh, yes, I'm sure the ASA pilots who are well represented will throw out their reps because the angry, disgruntled side with NO representation wants to stop their reps from getting beat up at every meeting.. Ya, ok. That makes sense.
And it's funny how your side can meet all your goals, yet every ERJ that takes off still loses money.
09-14-2014 | 05:39 PM
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From: CRJ200 Capt.
Thank you for standing up for yourself and not buying into the whipsaw as the leaders of your union has. This profession needs more pilots like you. The ASA lifers will do anything to keep their jobs. They don't care that their FO's can't afford to feed a family and pay their debts, as long as they are taken care of. Air101 - we have paid attention and we know the risk involved. If Mesa or PSA gets our flying that's fine, at the end of the day who do you think the majors are going to hire? The majors are going to need the Mesa/PSA pilots to fly their shiny RJ's. I can see less of them getting hired at majors as a result.
The fact is, Delta and United have been whipsawing their regionals for almost two decades now. American is getting into the act now, however it is really USAirways which also has years of experience whipsawing their regionals. There is nothing to "buy into"....It is a fact and has been for many years.
The fact is, ALPA/APA and the mainline MECs have perpetuated and encouraged this whipsaw.....I'm sorry you are still living in the past of a day when you were the lone provider for CAL with a 10 percent cost plus CPA.....Time to wake up and realize that is in the past and it is time to deal with reality.....
09-14-2014 | 05:43 PM
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From: CRJ200 Capt.
The ASA pilots for the most are very happy with their union representatives. You should worry more about your side of the house as they are putting your job in jeopardy....Take care of your own house before you start worry about our side...
09-14-2014 | 06:04 PM
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"Buying into the whipsaw". What do you mean by that?
The fact is, Delta and United have been whipsawing their regionals for almost two decades now. American is getting into the act now, however it is really USAirways which also has years of experience whipsawing their regionals. There is nothing to "buy into"....It is a fact and has been for many years.
The fact is, ALPA/APA and the mainline MECs have perpetuated and encouraged this whipsaw.....I'm sorry you are still living in the past of a day when you were the lone provider for CAL with a 10 percent cost plus CPA.....Time to wake up and realize that is in the past and it is time to deal with reality.....
The fact is, Delta and United have been whipsawing their regionals for almost two decades now. American is getting into the act now, however it is really USAirways which also has years of experience whipsawing their regionals. There is nothing to "buy into"....It is a fact and has been for many years.
The fact is, ALPA/APA and the mainline MECs have perpetuated and encouraged this whipsaw.....I'm sorry you are still living in the past of a day when you were the lone provider for CAL with a 10 percent cost plus CPA.....Time to wake up and realize that is in the past and it is time to deal with reality.....
09-14-2014 | 06:24 PM
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From: CRJ200 Capt.
The groups that play ball are being rewarded, and those that don't are being penalized.....The ASA pilots are going to take care of themselves....You may want to get to work working on your resume...
09-14-2014 | 06:40 PM
#7336
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From: CRJ CA
Can somebody please define what the amount is "That we are worth"? Who decides, what is the anount, and is it sustainable?
09-14-2014 | 06:40 PM
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"Buying into the whipsaw". What do you mean by that?
The fact is, Delta and United have been whipsawing their regionals for almost two decades now. American is getting into the act now, however it is really USAirways which also has years of experience whipsawing their regionals. There is nothing to "buy into"....It is a fact and has been for many years.
The fact is, ALPA/APA and the mainline MECs have perpetuated and encouraged this whipsaw.....I'm sorry you are still living in the past of a day when you were the lone provider for CAL with a 10 percent cost plus CPA.....Time to wake up and realize that is in the past and it is time to deal with reality.....
The fact is, Delta and United have been whipsawing their regionals for almost two decades now. American is getting into the act now, however it is really USAirways which also has years of experience whipsawing their regionals. There is nothing to "buy into"....It is a fact and has been for many years.
The fact is, ALPA/APA and the mainline MECs have perpetuated and encouraged this whipsaw.....I'm sorry you are still living in the past of a day when you were the lone provider for CAL with a 10 percent cost plus CPA.....Time to wake up and realize that is in the past and it is time to deal with reality.....
I'm proud of our representatives on the XJT side. The overwhelming majority of our pilots say no paycuts no matter what and they are listening unlike our old leadership
09-14-2014 | 06:58 PM
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The groups that play ball are being rewarded, and those that don't are being penalized.....The ASA pilots are going to take care of themselves....You may want to get to work working on your resume...
Hopefully in the next few years most of us with integrity, intelligence, and self respect will leave XJT so the remaining Joe's and Tony's can "play ball" and whipsaw each other.
09-14-2014 | 07:18 PM
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From: CRJ200 Capt.
Cpt. Tony was a part of that 83%, and was one of the most vocal pilots leading that 83%....Don't assume that 83% agree with the LXJT side....
09-14-2014 | 07:20 PM
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From: CRJ200 Capt.
Haha.. We need to get to work on our resumes?? Are you serious? Do you think anyone actually wants to be at Expressjet? If you find someone who isn't in the top 10-20% that isn't trying to get out of here let me know
Hopefully in the next few years most of us with integrity, intelligence, and self respect will leave XJT so the remaining Joe's and Tony's can "play ball" and whipsaw each other.
Hopefully in the next few years most of us with integrity, intelligence, and self respect will leave XJT so the remaining Joe's and Tony's can "play ball" and whipsaw each other.
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