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Old 02-23-2013 | 05:23 AM
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I have a lot of good sources and I have heard nothing about a position notice this week. But that said, good news usually comes out Monday or Tuesday morning. Only bad news comes out at 4:30 on Friday (for the reasons mentioned earlier).
Old 02-23-2013 | 06:24 AM
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The reserves available in Atlanta have been tied up on a pretty consistant basis, on the Captain side of things. We're losing a fair number of pilots, and I see little being done to keep up with attrition. Thus far, I'm hearing of record flying for the summer, being done with a historically low number of pilots. This is going to be a blood bath. At least for them. On the up side of things, we might get another "doesn't matter how we got here" email to feast on for a while. Maybe we'll finally get to see Old Man Tutt have a mental melt down.
Old 02-23-2013 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JumpersAway79
The reserves available in Atlanta have been tied up on a pretty consistant basis, on the Captain side of things. We're losing a fair number of pilots, and I see little being done to keep up with attrition. Thus far, I'm hearing of record flying for the summer, being done with a historically low number of pilots. This is going to be a blood bath. At least for them. On the up side of things, we might get another "doesn't matter how we got here" email to feast on for a while. Maybe we'll finally get to see Old Man Tutt have a mental melt down.
Nah man. With exception to SH, I don't think they melt down. They show up Monday morning and go home early Friday afternoon. Pilots seem to think management actually takes them seriously. This isn't the case. Pilots are just numbers who put out numbers in their equation. The only thing that really matters to them is that we don't crash. They don't make decision for the betterment of the pilot group......EVER.... They will not do something for us unless they see the numbers turning bad for them if they don't. CT will simply say oh well I guess that's the way it is this summer and go up to lke lanier for his vaca while the place melts down. It doesn't bother them, it's just business (although they aren't very good at it, they certainly aren't the worse).

The people who melt down are the pilot groups. We simply don't understand that how management can be so stupid running it so lean and crushing us and our personal relationships. I personally believe that extensions are always optional. A couple of summers ago I didn't accept a couple. I told them I would gladly accept my suspension because my girlfriend would really like me to have a weekend off. Nothing ever happened as a result. It's all a game to management. They stretch the contract to the best of their abilities, they stretch the pilot groups and work against us because they can. This is how it will always be at asa/xjt. It's all about costs. The risks involved in running a lean group are acceptable to them. It doesn't bother them when occasionally they misfire because in the end the number crunchers think it will work. Trying to convince them otherwise it futile.
Old 02-23-2013 | 08:47 AM
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Trying to understand whats going on here. Is Express Jet not hiring to keep up with attrition? Are they running classes?
Old 02-23-2013 | 08:49 AM
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ok grammar aholes let be for that last one. too much work to edit...
Old 02-23-2013 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
Nah man. With exception to SH, I don't think they melt down. They show up Monday morning and go home early Friday afternoon. Pilots seem to think management actually takes them seriously. This isn't the case. Pilots are just numbers who put out numbers in their equation. The only thing that really matters to them is that we don't crash. They don't make decision for the betterment of the pilot group......EVER.... They will not do something for us unless they see the numbers turning bad for them if they don't. CT will simply say oh well I guess that's the way it is this summer and go up to lke lanier for his vaca while the place melts down. It doesn't bother them, it's just business (although they aren't very good at it, they certainly aren't the worse).

The people who melt down are the pilot groups. We simply don't understand that how management can be so stupid running it so lean and crushing us and our personal relationships. I personally believe that extensions are always optional. A couple of summers ago I didn't accept a couple. I told them I would gladly accept my suspension because my girlfriend would really like me to have a weekend off. Nothing ever happened as a result. It's all a game to management. They stretch the contract to the best of their abilities, they stretch the pilot groups and work against us because they can. This is how it will always be at asa/xjt. It's all about costs. The risks involved in running a lean group are acceptable to them. It doesn't bother them when occasionally they misfire because in the end the number crunchers think it will work. Trying to convince them otherwise it futile.
This is probably the most accurate post EVER!
Old 02-23-2013 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo
Nah man. With exception to SH, I don't think they melt down. They show up Monday morning and go home early Friday afternoon. Pilots seem to think management actually takes them seriously. This isn't the case. Pilots are just numbers who put out numbers in their equation. The only thing that really matters to them is that we don't crash. They don't make decision for the betterment of the pilot group......EVER.... They will not do something for us unless they see the numbers turning bad for them if they don't. CT will simply say oh well I guess that's the way it is this summer and go up to lke lanier for his vaca while the place melts down. It doesn't bother them, it's just business (although they aren't very good at it, they certainly aren't the worse).

The people who melt down are the pilot groups. We simply don't understand that how management can be so stupid running it so lean and crushing us and our personal relationships. I personally believe that extensions are always optional. A couple of summers ago I didn't accept a couple. I told them I would gladly accept my suspension because my girlfriend would really like me to have a weekend off. Nothing ever happened as a result. It's all a game to management. They stretch the contract to the best of their abilities, they stretch the pilot groups and work against us because they can. This is how it will always be at asa/xjt. It's all about costs. The risks involved in running a lean group are acceptable to them. It doesn't bother them when occasionally they misfire because in the end the number crunchers think it will work. Trying to convince them otherwise it futile.
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This is probably the most accurate post EVER!
Agreed.

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Old 02-23-2013 | 10:57 AM
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Excellent post Kangaroo. You almost made tony and saab hug it out.

I am done doing favors for an incompetent scheduling department and a heartless management. I silenced their number but it vibrates everytime they leave a voicemail on the drive home. It is one of the more satisfying things about this job.
Old 02-23-2013 | 01:13 PM
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You couldnt pay me enough to say yes to being reassigned at this place.
Old 02-25-2013 | 12:28 PM
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Any info on the position notice? Was it just a rumor?
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