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Old 05-16-2015 | 07:58 AM
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Yep. Poor form indeed. My classmates and I didn't know better at the time but looking back on it and knowing what I now know, I and numerous others believe this was just the company's way of filling those ERJ classes... This email was one way of either softening the blow or doing a preemptive strike depending on how you look at it. I hope this isn't a tactic in use today.

As I understand it, said executive leader and others retired within the next year.
Old 05-16-2015 | 08:05 AM
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DR did retire. It should be noted that he had no control over base assignments. He was only in charge of recruiting, and got stuck being the bearer of bad news.
Old 05-16-2015 | 08:28 AM
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I think Danny has retired 4 times now lol. And don't shoot the messenger, as said above he didn't make the decision!
Old 05-18-2015 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Tony
I think Danny has retired 4 times now lol. And don't shoot the messenger, as said above he didn't make the decision!
I hope hes sitting in a room by himself wondering why no one will talk to him.
Old 05-18-2015 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
A case of regional Stockholm syndrome. It's not "just business". It is poor leadership and failure of management to secure your airline's future. Bases do open and close, but it is not a norm as you suggest.
I'm not suggesting it is the norm. I was being "sarcastic"
Old 05-19-2015 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by showmepilot
I was hired in June 2014 into the ERJ. I received my class date via email. I subsequently received an email asking if I would take a different date and go to CRJ. I wanted an ERJ domicile, so I said no. It was no problem and I ended up getting the domicile I wanted. There have been several system bids in the past year that have displaced people, but I guess that's "just business" in the aviation (especially regional) world.....
I don't understand the gripe here. If you're junior at any airline, you get the short end of the stick. I think last June, the future of our airline was clearly in question. Why did you come then? Especially for a ERJ spot regardless of base? Why are guys complaining they didn't get the base or plane they wanted? You're new. Sometimes you don't get what you want. I want to fly the 777 at a major, but I can't walk in there day one and demand I fly the 777, then cry about it when I don't get it. The airline industry is not a career filled with certainty and/or stability. Especially for the junior pilots. Was this not understood before choosing this career and airline?
Old 05-19-2015 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PeezDog
I don't understand the gripe here. If you're junior at any airline, you get the short end of the stick. I think last June, the future of our airline was clearly in question. Why did you come then? Especially for a ERJ spot regardless of base? Why are guys complaining they didn't get the base or plane they wanted? You're new. Sometimes you don't get what you want. I want to fly the 777 at a major, but I can't walk in there day one and demand I fly the 777, then cry about it when I don't get it. The airline industry is not a career filled with certainty and/or stability. Especially for the junior pilots. Was this not understood before choosing this career and airline?
Very easy to say when you're not junior and aren't feeling the brunt of it.
Old 05-19-2015 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Maingear
Very easy to say when you're not junior and aren't feeling the brunt of it.
Um I was furloughed for a year and a half, sat on reserve for almost two years before I held a ****ty junior line, wasn't assigned the base I wanted when I was recalled, kept getting pushed down in IAD when guys senior to me would bid there to hold a line, or when they did the temporary assignments, and am a 7 year FO with no upgrade in sight. It took me about 5 years here before I started seeing improvements in seniority and QOL. So yes, I've felt the brunt of it. This is almost nothing compared to what happened to some mainline guys during all the bankruptcies as well.

Edit: not to mention, I've missed countless holidays, birthdays, and other important and fun events while all this was happening. Which I'm sure will be happening again when I leave here. So believe me I understand
Old 05-19-2015 | 07:58 AM
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In regards to that letter from DR, that's almost two years old. What resulted in that period is not what happens today. The company is short on hiring on both sides, I don't see a situation like that happening anytime again.
Old 05-19-2015 | 09:37 AM
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I got a call today! Going to the interview in June. Two different things from the last interview gouges I've read online...they pay for the hotel and there is a simulator evaluation on the same day. Any advices?
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