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Old 11-07-2017 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
Yes, but there are more gone than the official number.
Yep, and none of that vacation will be dropped back in open time...
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Old 11-07-2017 | 09:19 PM
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Where was the “stand-up” group during negotiations (rather the CRJ side refusal to do so) that has brought down both sides of XJT, and now you get a seniority windfall in the integration award? Karma doesn’t exist till you make it.
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Not sure what you are referring to here. Each side represented their pilots interests and an agreement could not be reached. End of story. We were both going down anyway regardless, per the skywest playbook. A JCBA would have just made it cheaper for them.
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Old 11-08-2017 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SkipperBaloo
Not sure what you are referring to here. Each side represented their pilots interests and an agreement could not be reached. End of story. We were both going down anyway regardless, per the skywest playbook. A JCBA would have just made it cheaper for them.
Just one example: CRJ negotiators would either not show for negotiation meetings, or walk out. It was a blatant refusal to negotiate. It was not just one or two members, and it was routine. I’m not sure whose interests they were looking out for, but it wasn’t your’s nor mine.

I hope that one day the whole truth will come out.
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Old 11-08-2017 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by texaspropguy
Just one example: CRJ negotiators would either not show for negotiation meetings, or walk out. It was a blatant refusal to negotiate. It was not just one or two members, and it was routine. I’m not sure whose interests they were looking out for, but it wasn’t your’s nor mine.

I hope that one day the whole truth will come out.
I’m going to preface this by saying I’m on the LASA side.
Much of the truth about the former ASA MEC chairman and some of his supporters within the MEC has come out. It appears they were looking out after their own self interests instead of the pilots they were suppose to represent. The MEC chairman was double dipping- drawing full time pay in addition to cancellation pay and other pay in violation of ALPA national policies. He was making north of $200k/year, but how much nobody knows as he was not reporting his income to national, also in violation of their policies. His schenanigans were finally uncovered but only after some digging by a few reps. It was hard to do as he would not disclose to anyone how he was being paid or how much (in violation of ALPA and labor laws), and would publically attack anyone who had the temerity to ask.
He was eventually forced to resign under mounting pressure and was under investigation by both XJT and ALPA. Unfortunately XJT let him resign, so he is no longer on property. Probably will be picked up by a major in the near future like “Headset Man”. 🙄
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Old 11-08-2017 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by texaspropguy
Just one example: CRJ negotiators would either not show for negotiation meetings, or walk out. It was a blatant refusal to negotiate. It was not just one or two members, and it was routine. I’m not sure whose interests they were looking out for, but it wasn’t your’s nor mine.

I hope that one day the whole truth will come out.
I call BS.
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Old 11-08-2017 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo
I call BS.
Knowing what we do now about the former MEC chairman, I don’t.
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Old 11-08-2017 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NYGiantsFan
How many CRJ guys are leaving per month right now? and how many of those a very senior like 15+ years?
I'm a LASA guy. 16 years and I moved up 9 on the latest seniority list (which is a monumental leap for me). But I'm leaving next month. So there is some attrition from the 15+ year guys/gals.
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Old 11-09-2017 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
Knowing what we do now about the former MEC chairman, I don’t.
Looks like the riots will be on both sides when the truth comes out.
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Old 11-09-2017 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by texaspropguy
Looks like the riots will be on both sides when the truth comes out.
Is this TM y'all are discussing? When I was there the scheduling committee Chair was playing the same way by dropping, then picking up on off days.
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Old 11-09-2017 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SureJetStick
Is this TM y'all are discussing? When I was there the scheduling committee Chair was playing the same way by dropping, then picking up on off days.
Yup. I think the entire thing was swept under the rug. Very frustrating. Very few line pilots even know it was going on. But at least he is gone now both from the MEC and LASA.
Of course he probably has a job lined up at a major.
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