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06-02-2015 | 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by xDarkwingx

Help me out here. Is this order in addition to the ones already announced this year, which is what it seems, or are they just adding a couple to those already ordered? Either way the growth is good.

This is a new order. It's in addition to the order for 321s that start coming this fall. The article says that in order to be the lowest cost airline in the US, they need the larger seating capacity aircraft to do it. I think we'll see the older 319s go away in the next few years.

I think it's interesting that they publicly admit their intention to be even lower cost than Spirit. Ambitious goal for sure

06-02-2015 | 07:25 AM

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Thx. That is how I read it but I didn't want to assume. Also funny yet admit their intentions to everyone...except us until it's public. Its good news though.

06-02-2015 | 07:30 AM

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What about the a/c they ordered a couple years ago? Are they still coming too?

06-02-2015 | 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Flydaplane

What about the a/c they ordered a couple years ago? Are they still coming too?

There are actually a couple different orders. We have three or four 320s coming in the next few months, although I think they are used planes from Monarch. The last 2 or 3 planes were also from Monarch.

An order for 9 new 321s start arriving this fall and into early 2016. This new order, for 10 additional 321s and 2 320s are coming in 2016 and 17.

There is also an order for 80 320 NEOs that should come later next year

06-02-2015 | 12:16 PM

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Yes, the 320NEO order is the one I'm referring to. There is no order schedule I can find and there are never any updates on it. The 101 aircraft within 5 years mentioned in the article doesn't add up if these 80 NEO's are included? Granted it could just be reporter error?

06-02-2015 | 12:22 PM

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I am just making this up, but I don't think Airbus has a very specific delivery schedule for the NEO as it hasn't even finished certification yet. In fact, they only just started flight testing on the 320 with the CFM Leap engine. I haven't read anything that suggests they are running into any delays, but 2016 delivery dates seems soon considering flight testing just began.

But, maybe they do have a tentative delivery schedule. I've never been able to find it. I also have no idea the rate of deliveries. One a month? Two a month? No clue. It may also depends on how quickly they can ramp up production at the new factory.

06-02-2015 | 12:58 PM

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80 NEO + 9 321ceo + 12 (10-321s and 2-320s) = 101 total airframe deliveries planned. Not sure about any planned delivery rates or schedules.

06-02-2015 | 01:44 PM

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Don't forget that F9 has Leap X 1a motors on their NEO's as opposed to the PW NEO's. This was a requirement from GE as a quid pro quo for renegotiating existing leases during the F9 restructuring. The PW NEO has been flying since September of 2014. The Leap X NEO just had its maiden flight on May 19th, 2015.

The Leap X is scheduled to be certified in mid 2016. Hopefully there are no delays in the delivery schedule.

06-02-2015 | 02:24 PM

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Heisenberg is correct, I just reread the article, those are 101 orders not total aircraft. Nice! Of course some of these are to replace the 319's, but still good for the pilots.

06-02-2015 | 02:32 PM

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Heisenberg is correct, I just reread the article, those are 101 orders not total aircraft. Nice! Of course some of these are to replace the 319's, but still good for the pilots.

New planes are always good news!

Also, did anyone catch if this new order is for CEOs or NEOs? I read a few articles, and none of them specified.