Frontier Hiring.
01-14-2016, 08:47 AM
#4021
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Frontier does not pay for housing during training. They really should, but don't. It's basically a throwback to the days when Frontier was a Denver only airline and everyone was from Denver so no one cared about housing.
There are crashpads very near the GO that can be had for cheap. Just search for DEN crashpads. I think there are a few in the apartments near the Parking Spot off of Tower rd.
Pay starts on day one at $37.57 and 75 hours guarantee. About $2700/ month
There are crashpads very near the GO that can be had for cheap. Just search for DEN crashpads. I think there are a few in the apartments near the Parking Spot off of Tower rd.
Pay starts on day one at $37.57 and 75 hours guarantee. About $2700/ month
01-14-2016, 08:47 AM
#4022
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Well at that rate, after taxes it would take you two years to pay off the training contract.
01-14-2016, 08:53 AM
#4023
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Originally Posted by PilotLife4me
I don't work for F9 (but I hope to), but does everybody understand that F9 is currently operating on a bankruptcy contract that is amendable starting this year?
It wasn't to long ago that starting pay at AA was actually two dollars less than what F9's is now.
Frontier is laying the base for a solid future. I believe good things are to come.
It wasn't to long ago that starting pay at AA was actually two dollars less than what F9's is now.
Frontier is laying the base for a solid future. I believe good things are to come.
01-14-2016, 08:53 AM
#4024
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Originally Posted by elmetal
You do understand what a training contract is right? You don't have to pay it... Unless you leave
You do understand that as long as the stack of resume's is more than a dozen deep, and pilots are willing to sign said training contracts, then the impetus to change F9's $2700/month/new hire training contract is really not there for mgmt. Especially if your model is to be an ULCC which means your #1 focus as a manager is COST.
01-14-2016, 08:54 AM
#4025
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Yes, I got it..... it's not quite "pay for training" as took place in the 90's, but give them a bit, there still rediscovering the past.
You do understand that as long as the stack of resume's is more than a dozen deep, and pilots are willing to sign said training contracts, then the impetus to change F9's $2700/month/new hire training contract is really not there for mgmt. Especially if your model is to be an ULCC which means your #1 focus as a manager is COST.
You do understand that as long as the stack of resume's is more than a dozen deep, and pilots are willing to sign said training contracts, then the impetus to change F9's $2700/month/new hire training contract is really not there for mgmt. Especially if your model is to be an ULCC which means your #1 focus as a manager is COST.
Just as regionals won't change their pay while people keep showing up at their door.
I get it. Don't worry.
01-14-2016, 08:58 AM
#4026
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Absolutely understand.
Just as regionals won't change their pay while people keep showing up at their door.
I get it. Don't worry.
Just as regionals won't change their pay while people keep showing up at their door.
I get it. Don't worry.
No doubt looking back to the 80's/90's that ALPA/unions giving up the RJ to subcontractors was a big mistake, but as a profession, we must try and make sure it doesn't spread like a cancerous ulcer in both equipment size and prevalence.
Please keep fighting the good fight for just compensation as a professional pilot!
01-14-2016, 09:54 AM
#4027
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Originally Posted by wiz5422
Good God $2700 a month. Why would anyone go there for those wages? Plus you have to fork over for your own housing in training. Can we say the Mesa, or great Lakes of the LCC!
We are truly our own worst enemies by accepting jobs like this. Enjoy your food stamps.
We are truly our own worst enemies by accepting jobs like this. Enjoy your food stamps.
Originally Posted by PilotLife4me
I don't work for F9 (but I hope to), but does everybody understand that F9 is currently operating on a bankruptcy contract that is amendable starting this year?
It wasn't to long ago that starting pay at AA was actually two dollars less than what F9's is now.
Frontier is laying the base for a solid future. I believe good things are to come.
It wasn't to long ago that starting pay at AA was actually two dollars less than what F9's is now.
Frontier is laying the base for a solid future. I believe good things are to come.
01-14-2016, 10:09 AM
#4028
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A career is a long time. A contract that is amendable in 2 months is not.
Don't pick an airline based on today's contract. Pick an airline based on its business model. If you believe in the ULCC, frontier looks to have a bright future. A new contract will make frontier a very competitive place to work
Don't pick an airline based on today's contract. Pick an airline based on its business model. If you believe in the ULCC, frontier looks to have a bright future. A new contract will make frontier a very competitive place to work
01-14-2016, 10:14 AM
#4029
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
A career is a long time. A contract that is amendable in 2 months is not.
Don't pick an airline based on today's contract. Pick an airline based on its business model. If you believe in the ULCC, frontier looks to have a bright future. A new contract will make frontier a very competitive place to work
Don't pick an airline based on today's contract. Pick an airline based on its business model. If you believe in the ULCC, frontier looks to have a bright future. A new contract will make frontier a very competitive place to work
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