That's all great info. Thanks. Are new hires still required to provide their own hotel? If so, what are my options? Do they provide a list and discounts?

 

I was in the May class. We had to get our hotel. Several of us stayed at Staybridge. You get the "Frontier" rate which is discounted. A month or so ahead, I made all of my reservations from day one till the end of training with plans to go home on the weekends. As I understand it, they run an occupancy rate of about 95% so you may not get a room at the last minute. You can find a hotel that's a little less expensive - Days Inn. However, since Staybridge provides evening meals with an open bar 3 nights per week, it may be worth the extra $15/night. If you Google hotels on Tower Road you'll see that there are lots of choices but if you're looking to save a few bucks you'll probably come back to these 2.

We had weekends off throughout ground school with a block of 3 days for Memorial Day. I think we had 3 days off between ground and FTD's. Seems like we had 1 day off between FTD's & Sims. I had a Saturday FTD then Sims on Monday. Your schedule may be different. Worth noting, Staybridge doesn't generally provide transportation to and from the Sim Center (SSS) and neither does F9. Uber is a good option.

 

They did what they thought was the right thing. Now we're all going to do what we hope is the right thing. That is, we will if we can all get united behind the NC and take this all the way, instead of bickering amongst ourselves and passing out blame.
Cliché or not, we're all on the same team. Us against this capital investment firm that violates our contract every day.

 

I'm starting class next month and I ended up just going with a crash pad for $250/mo. Not ideal, but if you are looking to keep some of your own money throughout training, it's a sacrifice you'll have to make.

 

I stayed at a crashpad for $250/month. A couple guys from my class stayed there as well. You will need transportation, though, because nothing out there is really within walking distance of anything else it seems.

If you can't take your vehicle or won't be carpooling, I would recommend the Staybridge or the Days Inn on Tower for ground school. Sims are in a different location a few miles down the road, so I'm not sure what the hotel shuttle situation is.

 

I wasn't free riding in 2007, because I wasn't here. I got the full pleasure of the first year pay you gave away (for nothing), and "hindsight" is a choice word when almost every new hire coming onboard today enjoys a sweet paycut! So now is a good time to talk about whether we're going to stop effing over the new guys in our next contract. I'm tired of flying with food stamp FOs, it's a shame and they deserve better.

 

Unfortunately there are still CAs who think first year pay is fine as is. Such a joke.

 

Can you back that claim up by pm'ing me those captains names? Or are you just going to make anonymous inflammatory claims?

All of our pay scales suck. Across the board we are 40% less then our competitors. Every single year needs to come up.

And to DrJekyll,your going to criticize negotiations that you weren't even here for, that you don't have a clue about what was going on at Frontier at the time? Are you kidding me!
Not a single pilot expected Frontier to be in existence 1-2 years down to road while we were negotiating that reduction in first year pay. As F9 Driver said, it didn't hurt a single pilot on property and if it helped keep us in business , and all of us employed, then so be it.
No one that wasn't here 8 years ago has no idea what we went through. Back then I would have put money on us going out of business years ago. That we are still here, making tons of money, and growing like crazy, is due in large part to the sacrifices that the pilot group made back then.
So since you weren't here I'll accept your thank you on behalf of all of the pilots who made those sacrifices so that you can currently be employed here.
And to prospective new hires. Frontier needs you more then you need them. Do not accept the crappy pay and substandard contract they want to stick you with. There are much better operations that value you way more then Frontier does.

 

And let's remember if you make 40% less that means you need north of a 70% raise not 40% just to be even at date of signing.

Example: if "they make $100 and you make $60 you need
60x1.70=$102

Let's not forget united snaps to whatever delta gets and both AA and Ual open again in 2019

 

^^^^This^^^^