System Bid
08-03-2019, 09:19 AM
#201
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Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 555
Originally Posted by capt707
There is no equipment lock if it is your first upgrade. If you bid and get awarded Bus Capt you can move.
08-03-2019, 10:33 AM
#202
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Posts: 2,513
System Bid
Originally Posted by capt707
There is no equipment lock if it is your first upgrade. If you bid and get awarded Bus Capt you can move.
Just to clarify. There is a lock on your first captain upgrade.
There isn’t a lock that prevents you from being awarded your first captain upgrade.
Example.
190FO new hire - 1 year lock
320FO transition - 2 year lock
But let’s say in year 1 of your 2 year bus lock you can hold 190CA. You will be released from your lock and awarded 190CA.
Now in your new 190CA position you are locked 2 years.
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08-03-2019, 04:31 PM
#204
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,596
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
What about it?? Until they decide to base more aircraft here there won’t be any expansion. That won’t happen until the new terminal on the south side is complete with more gates. Then we might see some actual growth. Next year is a zero sum game for mco.
I actually quit asking about it years ago because every time the answer is mco is next.
2008-2010 we gave planes away... but opened mco in winter of 2009 if memory serves. We’re lucky to be alive.... yadda yadda then things begin to turn around. Hiring. More planes.
So? When do we expand mco?
After Boston 20011
After sju 2012
After bos 2014
After jfk 2014
After dca 2015
After Boston 2016
After FLL2018
After Boston. 2019
But mco is next.
I actually quit asking about it years ago because every time the answer is mco is next.
2008-2010 we gave planes away... but opened mco in winter of 2009 if memory serves. We’re lucky to be alive.... yadda yadda then things begin to turn around. Hiring. More planes.
So? When do we expand mco?
After Boston 20011
After sju 2012
After bos 2014
After jfk 2014
After dca 2015
After Boston 2016
After FLL2018
After Boston. 2019
But mco is next.
08-07-2019, 09:04 AM
#208
On Reserve
Joined APC: May 2019
Posts: 21
Hoping to get some insight on the QOL for 320 JFK FO. As we are currently bidding, I am looking at a possible transition from 190 FO to 320 FO, at or just after the one-year seat lock. I'll outline my scenario below to help with any comments.
As with anyone coming from a regional, I hope to get away from the multiple-legs a day northeast flying. Having looked through the bid packet, I see that the 190 JFK can get you out of the northeast a fair bit albeit still working multiple legs. So that in itself is welcoming news.
I do live in base, so there will not be any issues with commuting. So sitting reserve a little longer shouldn't be terrible. My main concern for the 320 is as we know the plane is significantly more senior. What is life like for a year 1/2 to 3 year FO in JFK? Are you successful in bidding days off? I know the red-eyes exist but they do seem to be blown out of proportion slightly... it shouldn't be every leg/trip (having read multiple threads/scrolling through bid packet). With that, I fully understand that someone has to be the junior person, so this is not complaining. Just trying to make my best guess since we are at least for now only given one time a year to bid. It's a little hard to make that assessment when you have even hit the line yet.
For all I know, the 190 could be best thing for my situation. I know $$$ is to be made on the 190 during bad weather, but I am also not a hustler. I enjoy my time off.
All that being considered, I would greatly appreciate any info/insight you guys may be able to offer.
As with anyone coming from a regional, I hope to get away from the multiple-legs a day northeast flying. Having looked through the bid packet, I see that the 190 JFK can get you out of the northeast a fair bit albeit still working multiple legs. So that in itself is welcoming news.
I do live in base, so there will not be any issues with commuting. So sitting reserve a little longer shouldn't be terrible. My main concern for the 320 is as we know the plane is significantly more senior. What is life like for a year 1/2 to 3 year FO in JFK? Are you successful in bidding days off? I know the red-eyes exist but they do seem to be blown out of proportion slightly... it shouldn't be every leg/trip (having read multiple threads/scrolling through bid packet). With that, I fully understand that someone has to be the junior person, so this is not complaining. Just trying to make my best guess since we are at least for now only given one time a year to bid. It's a little hard to make that assessment when you have even hit the line yet.
For all I know, the 190 could be best thing for my situation. I know $$$ is to be made on the 190 during bad weather, but I am also not a hustler. I enjoy my time off.
All that being considered, I would greatly appreciate any info/insight you guys may be able to offer.
08-07-2019, 09:15 AM
#209
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 917
Originally Posted by Whipper33
Hoping to get some insight on the QOL for 320 JFK FO. As we are currently bidding, I am looking at a possible transition from 190 FO to 320 FO, at or just after the one-year seat lock. I'll outline my scenario below to help with any comments.
As with anyone coming from a regional, I hope to get away from the multiple-legs a day northeast flying. Having looked through the bid packet, I see that the 190 JFK can get you out of the northeast a fair bit albeit still working multiple legs. So that in itself is welcoming news.
I do live in base, so there will not be any issues with commuting. So sitting reserve a little longer shouldn't be terrible. My main concern for the 320 is as we know the plane is significantly more senior. What is life like for a year 1/2 to 3 year FO in JFK? Are you successful in bidding days off? I know the red-eyes exist but they do seem to be blown out of proportion slightly... it shouldn't be every leg/trip (having read multiple threads/scrolling through bid packet). With that, I fully understand that someone has to be the junior person, so this is not complaining. Just trying to make my best guess since we are at least for now only given one time a year to bid. It's a little hard to make that assessment when you have even hit the line yet.
For all I know, the 190 could be best thing for my situation. I know $$$ is to be made on the 190 during bad weather, but I am also not a hustler. I enjoy my time off.
All that being considered, I would greatly appreciate any info/insight you guys may be able to offer.
As with anyone coming from a regional, I hope to get away from the multiple-legs a day northeast flying. Having looked through the bid packet, I see that the 190 JFK can get you out of the northeast a fair bit albeit still working multiple legs. So that in itself is welcoming news.
I do live in base, so there will not be any issues with commuting. So sitting reserve a little longer shouldn't be terrible. My main concern for the 320 is as we know the plane is significantly more senior. What is life like for a year 1/2 to 3 year FO in JFK? Are you successful in bidding days off? I know the red-eyes exist but they do seem to be blown out of proportion slightly... it shouldn't be every leg/trip (having read multiple threads/scrolling through bid packet). With that, I fully understand that someone has to be the junior person, so this is not complaining. Just trying to make my best guess since we are at least for now only given one time a year to bid. It's a little hard to make that assessment when you have even hit the line yet.
For all I know, the 190 could be best thing for my situation. I know $$$ is to be made on the 190 during bad weather, but I am also not a hustler. I enjoy my time off.
All that being considered, I would greatly appreciate any info/insight you guys may be able to offer.
Each plane has it’s pros and cons, which have been discussed numerous times before. You just have to decide what is more important to you. You have an advantage of living in base, at a fairly large commuter base, so bidding commutable trips isn’t your first concern. You probably won’t be able to avoid red eyes completely after a year, but if you don’t mind early starts/late finishes, you can probably get some non redeye trips. Your seniority progression will probably be a lot quicker on the 190 for now, but again, you live in base and you don’t mind redeyes and dealing with fumes, then make the jump to the bus.
08-07-2019, 09:49 AM
#210
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,002
Originally Posted by Whipper33
Hoping to get some insight on the QOL for 320 JFK FO. As we are currently bidding, I am looking at a possible transition from 190 FO to 320 FO, at or just after the one-year seat lock. I'll outline my scenario below to help with any comments.
As with anyone coming from a regional, I hope to get away from the multiple-legs a day northeast flying. Having looked through the bid packet, I see that the 190 JFK can get you out of the northeast a fair bit albeit still working multiple legs. So that in itself is welcoming news.
I do live in base, so there will not be any issues with commuting. So sitting reserve a little longer shouldn't be terrible. My main concern for the 320 is as we know the plane is significantly more senior. What is life like for a year 1/2 to 3 year FO in JFK? Are you successful in bidding days off? I know the red-eyes exist but they do seem to be blown out of proportion slightly... it shouldn't be every leg/trip (having read multiple threads/scrolling through bid packet). With that, I fully understand that someone has to be the junior person, so this is not complaining. Just trying to make my best guess since we are at least for now only given one time a year to bid. It's a little hard to make that assessment when you have even hit the line yet.
For all I know, the 190 could be best thing for my situation. I know $$$ is to be made on the 190 during bad weather, but I am also not a hustler. I enjoy my time off.
All that being considered, I would greatly appreciate any info/insight you guys may be able to offer.
As with anyone coming from a regional, I hope to get away from the multiple-legs a day northeast flying. Having looked through the bid packet, I see that the 190 JFK can get you out of the northeast a fair bit albeit still working multiple legs. So that in itself is welcoming news.
I do live in base, so there will not be any issues with commuting. So sitting reserve a little longer shouldn't be terrible. My main concern for the 320 is as we know the plane is significantly more senior. What is life like for a year 1/2 to 3 year FO in JFK? Are you successful in bidding days off? I know the red-eyes exist but they do seem to be blown out of proportion slightly... it shouldn't be every leg/trip (having read multiple threads/scrolling through bid packet). With that, I fully understand that someone has to be the junior person, so this is not complaining. Just trying to make my best guess since we are at least for now only given one time a year to bid. It's a little hard to make that assessment when you have even hit the line yet.
For all I know, the 190 could be best thing for my situation. I know $$$ is to be made on the 190 during bad weather, but I am also not a hustler. I enjoy my time off.
All that being considered, I would greatly appreciate any info/insight you guys may be able to offer.
IMO 190-JFK is some of the worst flying in the Jetblue system overall. There’s a reason the last system bid had an April ‘17 hire take the junior upgrade. Also since you said you don’t like working extra, might as well take the higher payrate. If I was JFK local, I wouldn’t even hesitate to switch.
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