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05-08-2017, 03:35 PM
#3391
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,316
Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Cool. So we don't do that. I have a first amendment right to advocate against helping the company while they violate status quo left and right.
No one is being intimidated just being told by a few of us on here that helping staff the airline isn't helping us in negotiations. Its the truth. Do with that truth what you will. Sounds like Spirit has some pilots who get it.
No one is being intimidated just being told by a few of us on here that helping staff the airline isn't helping us in negotiations. Its the truth. Do with that truth what you will. Sounds like Spirit has some pilots who get it.
Now whether or not suing a pilot group in a time of a pilot shortage is a good idea, that's a whole different argument. Great way to shoot yourself in the foot right there.
05-08-2017, 06:19 PM
#3392
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: B6
Posts: 1,047
Originally Posted by Xtreme87
LAWL first amendment rights. This is the corporate states of america. It's their word over yours. The laws are designed to protect them against you, not the other way around. Enter the RLA. Don't think for a second that a judge wouldn't order these forums to turn over user info. Not saying it would get to that point.
Now whether or not suing a pilot group in a time of a pilot shortage is a good idea, that's a whole different argument. Great way to shoot yourself in the foot right there.
Now whether or not suing a pilot group in a time of a pilot shortage is a good idea, that's a whole different argument. Great way to shoot yourself in the foot right there.
05-09-2017, 02:34 AM
#3393
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: CA
Posts: 1,211
Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Cool. So we don't do that. I have a first amendment right to advocate against helping the company while they violate status quo left and right.
No one is being intimidated just being told by a few of us on here that helping staff the airline isn't helping us in negotiations. Its the truth. Do with that truth what you will. Sounds like Spirit has some pilots who get it.
No one is being intimidated just being told by a few of us on here that helping staff the airline isn't helping us in negotiations. Its the truth. Do with that truth what you will. Sounds like Spirit has some pilots who get it.
You've got a straw man argument. The company violating status quo doesn't then allow you to create websites intimidating pilots to not do trips that you don't approve of. Why not reach out to the ALPA lawyer and see what he thinks?
05-09-2017, 05:05 AM
#3395
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,445
Originally Posted by Softpayman
We're talking Spirit and pilots creating a website, not you.
You've got a straw man argument. The company violating status quo doesn't then allow you to create websites intimidating pilots to not do trips that you don't approve of. Why not reach out to the ALPA lawyer and see what he thinks?
You've got a straw man argument. The company violating status quo doesn't then allow you to create websites intimidating pilots to not do trips that you don't approve of. Why not reach out to the ALPA lawyer and see what he thinks?
05-09-2017, 05:14 AM
#3396
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: CA
Posts: 1,211
Originally Posted by PasserOGas
I said let's NOT set up a website. I am allowed to advocate my personal opinion though. Sorry if you don't like it.
Me and the other guy were talking Spirit. Spirit's website. You come along and start talking about your first amendment rights. Great. You have them. That's not what we're talking about.
05-09-2017, 05:36 AM
#3397
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,588
Pages 12-14 of the Spirit lawsuit have APC posts quoted as evidence:
http://m.mynews13.com/content/dam/ne...PA_lawsuit.pdf
http://m.mynews13.com/content/dam/ne...PA_lawsuit.pdf
05-09-2017, 05:51 AM
#3398
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: B6
Posts: 777
I never understand how lawyers cannot discredit anonymous internet posts. That would be like creating a screen name "OJ JUICE" and posting "I did it, fyi" on a forum and then police coming in and saying ... see he said so.
What's stopping someone from creating a screen name "Spirit Management" and just typing random sh*t about pilots, then ALPA turning around and saying look at all this great evidence we have.
What's stopping someone from creating a screen name "Spirit Management" and just typing random sh*t about pilots, then ALPA turning around and saying look at all this great evidence we have.
05-09-2017, 05:57 AM
#3399
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: CA
Posts: 1,211
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
What's stopping someone from creating a screen name "Spirit Management" and just typing random sh*t about pilots, then ALPA turning around and saying look at all this great evidence we have.
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