US house panel votes in age [67]
#71
Banned
Joined: Jun 2023
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: Twin jet, left
He’s doesn’t have to sit for long periods of time, wear a cheap suit, answer basic questions and exert minimal levels of physical activity?
I’d wager the walk from the parking lot to the senate floor is about the same as a parking lot to the gate
Make a bad decision as a pilot and its like 200-400 people affected, population of just VT is 643,000
#72
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,213
Likes: 14
From: guppy CA
The 81 year old senator isn't using hand-eye skills or needing to make split second life or death decisions. In fact, most of them have an Army of aides who do the vast majority of work. Now, if the CA just sat in the JS and had 3 FOs operate the aircraft, you may have an argument.
Yeah, those Delta pilots who aborted in JFK sure weren't seconds away from a mass casualty event. Or those near misses on approach...they didn't need to make quick decisions. Nope. Pilots don't need to make critical decisions in very short periods of time. Might as well be sitting in a office looking at spreadsheets. It's the same mental difficulty.
So are you now saying that older pilots ARE able to do the job? So why all of your whining?
#73
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 12,480
Likes: 1,051
I am responding to this:
And this:
You've leaned hard on implying that older pilots don't have the ability to do the job anymore. That's why we have check rides; to weed out those that can't do the job.
So are you now saying that older pilots ARE able to do the job? So why all of your whining?
And this:
You've leaned hard on implying that older pilots don't have the ability to do the job anymore. That's why we have check rides; to weed out those that can't do the job.
So are you now saying that older pilots ARE able to do the job? So why all of your whining?
#74
Line Holder
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,706
Likes: 43
The problem for some pilots (such as myself) is at 63 I can bid for a widebody captain seat and get awarded and paid for it without flying it if the company chooses not to train me.
I prefer the narrowbody schedule and qol. Was planning to bid up without flying it, but that will be off the table. Sure as shinola don't want to go to 67.
I prefer the narrowbody schedule and qol. Was planning to bid up without flying it, but that will be off the table. Sure as shinola don't want to go to 67.
#75
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 2,014
Likes: 1
From: Retired NJA & AA
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/15/busin...=1686912450787
Lot of "discussion" over the pilot shortage and changing the ATP rule and raising retirement age to 67.
Lawmakers wrangle over measures to address pilot shortage
Lot of "discussion" over the pilot shortage and changing the ATP rule and raising retirement age to 67.
#76
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,213
Likes: 14
From: guppy CA
What age should someone no longer be allowed to hold a job as a professional pilot? What age should the car keys be taken away?
And I'm still waiting with bated breath for you to tell us about the last time you had to make a split second life or death decision as a pilot.
You are wasting your time here railing against an age change. The vast majority of readers agree with you that it should stay at 65. But this is an echo chamber where the people that matter are not hearing your opinion.
Spend your time mobilizing a bunch of pilots to do an email/letter writing campaign to all of the Senate and Congress.
I'm sure you'll get a sympathetic ear from many of the Septuagenarian and Octogenarian elected officials. /s
Bottom line ... Mongo only pawn in game of life.
#77
Prime Minister/Moderator

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,882
Likes: 681
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
1. He doesn't hate age 67 badly enough to veto a bill passed by a Dem-controlled senate.
2. He doesn't really care to back up Mayor Pete who could hypothetically at any time resign and run in 2024.
3. Worst of all, he can't make a big public production of vetoing a bill which contains a lot of other stuff, just because it lets old people continue to work... when he's about to run for office at age 80-ish
In politics that called Bad Optics
#78
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 12,480
Likes: 1,051
Hmmm. You like continually moving the goalposts. The topic is 67, not 85.
What age should someone no longer be allowed to hold a job as a professional pilot? What age should the car keys be taken away?
And I'm still waiting with bated breath for you to tell us about the last time you had to make a split second life or death decision as a pilot.
You are wasting your time here railing against an age change. The vast majority of readers agree with you that it should stay at 65. But this is an echo chamber where the people that matter are not hearing your opinion.
Spend your time mobilizing a bunch of pilots to do an email/letter writing campaign to all of the Senate and Congress.
I'm sure you'll get a sympathetic ear from many of the Septuagenarian and Octogenarian elected officials. /s
Bottom line ... Mongo only pawn in game of life.
What age should someone no longer be allowed to hold a job as a professional pilot? What age should the car keys be taken away?
And I'm still waiting with bated breath for you to tell us about the last time you had to make a split second life or death decision as a pilot.
You are wasting your time here railing against an age change. The vast majority of readers agree with you that it should stay at 65. But this is an echo chamber where the people that matter are not hearing your opinion.
Spend your time mobilizing a bunch of pilots to do an email/letter writing campaign to all of the Senate and Congress.
I'm sure you'll get a sympathetic ear from many of the Septuagenarian and Octogenarian elected officials. /s
Bottom line ... Mongo only pawn in game of life.
#79
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,213
Likes: 14
From: guppy CA
"The 81 year old senator isn't using hand-eye skills or needing to make split second life or death decisions"
and
Yeah, those Delta pilots who aborted in JFK sure weren't seconds away from a mass casualty event. Or those near misses on approach...they didn't need to make quick decisions. Nope. Pilots don't need to make critical decisions in very short periods of time. Might as well be sitting in a office looking at spreadsheets. It's the same mental difficulty.
#80
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 12,480
Likes: 1,051
No, you weren't merely responding to my comment. You built the strawmen:
"The 81 year old senator isn't using hand-eye skills or needing to make split second life or death decisions"
and
How about the last time you made a split second life or death decision as a pilot? Still waiting...
"The 81 year old senator isn't using hand-eye skills or needing to make split second life or death decisions"
and
How about the last time you made a split second life or death decision as a pilot? Still waiting...
And I've dealt with my share of emergencies where a poor or delayed decision would have resulted in poor outcomes.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post



