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02-10-2011 | 06:40 AM
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Interesting stuff Dal 88.....
So Alpa can't help The APA if it harms Eagle. Am I to infer that Alpa can't help us if our wannabe contract is detrimental to regional Alpa pilots?
Is what Alpa has written to the APA finally proof of the conflict of interest between regionals and majors?
If we are to stay with Alpa how will Alpa prove to us that it can represent ALL our interests. I do not want National to tell us we can't have scope improvements. I believe DPA will actually gain steam if they can prove that Alpa national cannot do a thing about scope. ....actually, the proof is that stupid lawsuit from Comair, right?
I think Alpa stepped on their on foot trying to represent everyone at every level. Too bad it couldn't just be split in two, regional vs majors. At least then we'd have a battle line.
So Alpa can't help The APA if it harms Eagle. Am I to infer that Alpa can't help us if our wannabe contract is detrimental to regional Alpa pilots?
Is what Alpa has written to the APA finally proof of the conflict of interest between regionals and majors?
If we are to stay with Alpa how will Alpa prove to us that it can represent ALL our interests. I do not want National to tell us we can't have scope improvements. I believe DPA will actually gain steam if they can prove that Alpa national cannot do a thing about scope. ....actually, the proof is that stupid lawsuit from Comair, right?
I think Alpa stepped on their on foot trying to represent everyone at every level. Too bad it couldn't just be split in two, regional vs majors. At least then we'd have a battle line.
02-10-2011 | 07:12 AM
#4392
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Interesting stuff Dal 88.....
So Alpa can't help The APA if it harms Eagle. Am I to infer that Alpa can't help us if our wannabe contract is detrimental to regional Alpa pilots?
Is what Alpa has written to the APA finally proof of the conflict of interest between regionals and majors?
If we are to stay with Alpa how will Alpa prove to us that it can represent ALL our interests. I do not want National to tell us we can't have scope improvements. I believe DPA will actually gain steam if they can prove that Alpa national cannot do a thing about scope. ....actually, the proof is that stupid lawsuit from Comair, right?
I think Alpa stepped on their on foot trying to represent everyone at every level. Too bad it couldn't just be split in two, regional vs majors. At least then we'd have a battle line.
So Alpa can't help The APA if it harms Eagle. Am I to infer that Alpa can't help us if our wannabe contract is detrimental to regional Alpa pilots?
Is what Alpa has written to the APA finally proof of the conflict of interest between regionals and majors?
If we are to stay with Alpa how will Alpa prove to us that it can represent ALL our interests. I do not want National to tell us we can't have scope improvements. I believe DPA will actually gain steam if they can prove that Alpa national cannot do a thing about scope. ....actually, the proof is that stupid lawsuit from Comair, right?
I think Alpa stepped on their on foot trying to represent everyone at every level. Too bad it couldn't just be split in two, regional vs majors. At least then we'd have a battle line.
Isn't this the point Carl has been trying to make?
02-10-2011 | 08:35 AM
#4393
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The conflict of interest within ALPA is beyond illegal. It is disgusting.
This arrangement with APA is going to end up costing all of us millions of dollars when Eagle sues ALPA for violating their duty of fair representation.
02-10-2011 | 10:39 AM
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It will be Exhibit A in any future DFR lawsuit against ALPA.
The conflict of interest within ALPA is beyond illegal. It is disgusting.
This arrangement with APA is going to end up costing all of us millions of dollars when Eagle sues ALPA for violating their duty of fair representation.
The conflict of interest within ALPA is beyond illegal. It is disgusting.
This arrangement with APA is going to end up costing all of us millions of dollars when Eagle sues ALPA for violating their duty of fair representation.
The ability of this business to operate outside the direct control of ALPA is what I think (just an opinion/guess) will prevent a DFR lawsuit to have merit. Any lawyers have better precedent/information?
02-10-2011 | 12:00 PM
#4395
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BRing 'em back in and make 'em PAY.....
02-10-2011 | 02:20 PM
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I agree, but it would be good for the profession to see SWAPA, APA, and IPA all join forces under ALPA. Good things would happen.
With what is happening with foreign ownership et al, it is wise for all pilots to have one unified voice. Divided special interests at the national and international level will only hurt us.
With what is happening with foreign ownership et al, it is wise for all pilots to have one unified voice. Divided special interests at the national and international level will only hurt us.
02-10-2011 | 02:26 PM
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Carl
02-10-2011 | 02:28 PM
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It will be Exhibit A in any future DFR lawsuit against ALPA.
The conflict of interest within ALPA is beyond illegal. It is disgusting.
This arrangement with APA is going to end up costing all of us millions of dollars when Eagle sues ALPA for violating their duty of fair representation.
The conflict of interest within ALPA is beyond illegal. It is disgusting.
This arrangement with APA is going to end up costing all of us millions of dollars when Eagle sues ALPA for violating their duty of fair representation.
Carl
02-10-2011 | 02:33 PM
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The one thing that comes to mind is that ALPA has partially "spun off" the professional lawyer branch of ALPA... Its now a "subsidiary company" called the ISPC, or International Pilot Services Corporation.
The ability of this business to operate outside the direct control of ALPA is what I think (just an opinion/guess) will prevent a DFR lawsuit to have merit. Any lawyers have better precedent/information?
The ability of this business to operate outside the direct control of ALPA is what I think (just an opinion/guess) will prevent a DFR lawsuit to have merit. Any lawyers have better precedent/information?
Carl
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