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08-02-2014 | 05:25 PM
#2061
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I'm afraid there's going to be a heavy cost for lots of new flying, ie a miserable merger.
08-02-2014 | 06:14 PM
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In all honesty, we and the CEOs can make all the predictions we want, good and bad. Doesn't change the fact none of us really have any clue of what is going to happen in the future. Hope for the best, plan for the worst, accept what ends up happening and make the best of it. That is all any of us can do.
08-02-2014 | 08:17 PM
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In all honesty, we and the CEOs can make all the predictions we want, good and bad. Doesn't change the fact none of us really have any clue of what is going to happen in the future. Hope for the best, plan for the worst, accept what ends up happening and make the best of it. That is all any of us can do.
08-02-2014 | 08:21 PM
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In all honesty, we and the CEOs can make all the predictions we want, good and bad. Doesn't change the fact none of us really have any clue of what is going to happen in the future. Hope for the best, plan for the worst, accept what ends up happening and make the best of it. That is all any of us can do.
08-02-2014 | 08:25 PM
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It honestly does not surprise me though, pilots are not as intelligent as their egos tend to allow them to believe they are.
Just look at people going to Expressjet. With everything we know about this industry over the past 15 years, who in gods name would take a job at an airline with all 50 seaters on renewing two year contracts?
Talk about setting yourself up for failure.
Just look at people going to Expressjet. With everything we know about this industry over the past 15 years, who in gods name would take a job at an airline with all 50 seaters on renewing two year contracts?
Talk about setting yourself up for failure.
08-02-2014 | 08:28 PM
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At the way things are going, by the time the dust settles, this place is going to have 150 aircraft and 1500 pilots.
We have the CRJ and EJET on cert now. No 50 seaters to shed. JO's emails hint to the sky being the limit for new flying. I'm sure these first 30 175s are only the tip of the iceberg for 175 flying
Someone once asked a well known regional airline CEO what they thought would happen to Mesa back in 2010. (When all the dashs 200s and 145s were being parked) It was a general consensus in the room Mesa was done.
The CEO said "Mesa would be back and bigger than ever, and JO would be out for blood."
We have the CRJ and EJET on cert now. No 50 seaters to shed. JO's emails hint to the sky being the limit for new flying. I'm sure these first 30 175s are only the tip of the iceberg for 175 flying
Someone once asked a well known regional airline CEO what they thought would happen to Mesa back in 2010. (When all the dashs 200s and 145s were being parked) It was a general consensus in the room Mesa was done.
The CEO said "Mesa would be back and bigger than ever, and JO would be out for blood."
"Sky being the limit for new flying", so long as JO can keep you guys cheerleading to get new suckers to come work there..., and so long as he can keep your pay and benefits at the bottom of the regional barrel!
08-02-2014 | 08:43 PM
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Why on earth would JO, the cheapest man in the industry want to absorb another pilot group.
No, he doesn't want some 15 year AE Captain, he wants a 2 year YV CA sitting next to a 1 year YV FO flying his metal. It doesn't get any cheaper than that.
If your still not following, let me break this down. If we merge, he absorbs the seniority of whichever group is merged with Mesa. That is much higher labor cost than a complete Mesa new hire FOs, and newly upgraded captains.
08-02-2014 | 08:43 PM
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It honestly does not surprise me though, pilots are not as intelligent as their egos tend to allow them to believe they are.
Just look at people going to Expressjet. With everything we know about this industry over the past 15 years, who in gods name would take a job at an airline with all 50 seaters on renewing two year contracts?
Talk about setting yourself up for failure.
Just look at people going to Expressjet. With everything we know about this industry over the past 15 years, who in gods name would take a job at an airline with all 50 seaters on renewing two year contracts?
Talk about setting yourself up for failure.
Without listening to what just pilots say, all one has to do is just look at what is being said about these companies on any finance website.
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