No one is talking about Mesa, dummy. Get over yourself. The comment is that perhaps, after one winter and 1000 hours, you might not be prepared to be a Captain. Some people might be. Many others wont be.

 

Anyone else see the rumors on the Gojet thread about them getting 7-9 CRJ900s? Could they be the ones that were slated for mesa?

 

Totally agree, and most of it is common sense or it's clearly outlined in the flight manual or ops manual. Sure experience plays a role, however, taking ones time and following company procedures will result in a safe operation. Experience may very well teach patience and adherence to procedure, but I've also seen experience move some in the wrong direction and away from procedure based on what they experienced in the past, and sometimes safety was compromised as a result.

 

Actually, that's exactly what we have on all of our airplanes. We have a de-ice checklist that we follow along with a cold weather ops card that has all the info one needs. I've been on the 777 for over 2 years now and I've never been de-iced in the thing.

Cold weather ops is not like flying a shuttle mission or something. Coordinate with ops, taxi to the pad, follow the checklist to configure, write down the pertinants when given, finish the de-ice checklist, taxi out, check holdover time, and launch if you haven't exceeded or do a pre-takeoff contamination check if permitted.

 

I'm not talking specifically about de-icing. Jeez, you guys are dense.

 

Always appreciate and respect your input on these things.

If you don't mind my asking, I'm just curious how much seniority an FO needs to be awarded a widebody at UAL.

 

What's the upgrade time on the 777 at United? Do they do one of those interview things? If yes, can I do it over the phone.

 

Lol..FB you never disappoint. And I think the rest of you are missing the point. No one is talking about de-ice procedures and checklists specifically. It's all the other 'out of the norm' situations that happen in real time that one has to rely on experience to make the best decisions. Expecially when flying with a new FO. I thought it was common sense that one should gain adequate experience before moving over to the left seat. Apparently not. 1000 hours PIC in type is barely enough time. Doable for some...definitely not for others. And this is for all airlines....not just Mesa.

 

You all do realize that many South American, and even European airlines put 250 hour wonders in the right seat of 737's and A320's right?
I've taught over 100 of them, some are flying 777's right now with far fewer hours than I have.
To be honest, this 1500 hour rule is absolutely stupid. I'd rather have a kid fresh out of ATP with 250 hours with a brain like a sponge. I can show him one time how to do something, he'll get it down perfectly. They are much better to have in the cockpit than a 40+ year old person who has never flown a jet, but accumulated his 1500 hours over 20 years flying out of uncontrolled airports in his C152.
The only supposedly good thing about this 1500 hour rule is the affect that it will "eventually" have on our paychecks... Geez, we screwed over the new guys for a supposed bigger paycheck! Talk about hypocritical!!

 

^^^THIS...........