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Old 01-05-2016 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pullout
It sure does pay less. I over block almost every month. Usually by at least 3 hours. And it saves a bunch of fuel so I doubt United minds. On time performance stays high as well.
It largely depends on the domicile. In PHX you won't see much over block due to the efficiency of the system and the fact that we see little to no weather out this way (which is amazing btw). So we haul a$$ everywhere out west. Now DFW is a different story. Diversions for wx, waiting an hour or more for a gate, deicing, etc...that all adds up to a more substantial amount of overblock.
Old 01-05-2016 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Sennant
Getting in early doesn't pay you less
No one said it does--the OP is simply advocating flying the cost index speeds and taxiing at a safe speed vs. blasting around at .81/.79 for no reason like a dummy.

If you leave as early as possible, taxi at safe speeds per the AIM/GOM/CFM, fly cost index speeds from the TLR or ACARS--per the GOM I might add--you maximize your block, and increase the odds of locking in a few minutes of OB here and there.

Why not follow company policy and fly Econ speeds? If you aren't trying to catch a commute, you shouldn't be flying any faster that CI/ECON!!!
Old 01-05-2016 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
No one said it does--the OP is simply advocating flying the cost index speeds and taxiing at a safe speed vs. blasting around at .81/.79 for no reason like a dummy.
Can't speak for the E175, but average CI speed in the CRJ is usually around .79
Old 01-05-2016 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Can't speak for the E175, but average CI speed in the CRJ is usually around .79
Yeah E175 average CI is .75. With a strong headwind it's about .77/.78, with a strong tailwind it's down to .65-.74 depending on altitude/weight.

Too many people just blindly fly the EJet like a CRJ because they're still in CRJ mode in their heads.
Old 01-05-2016 | 06:24 PM
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Cool less speed = more pay. esp after the last TA

The trip credit and block credit is predicted by the computer based on a running history. So all you guys doing .80-.82 are shooting us in the foot. Last day last trip i get the .82, but otherwise the faster you fly the less credit the trip is worth in the future. Hell my leg back from Mexico today we flew it at .70 because of a strong tail wind with a GS of 390. Total over block = .6......... Over block= more hours= more pay. And now with wifi on board you can do all that you normally would during a sit in the terminal so why rush. Plus after the last TA who gives a s*it. I aint doing the company any favors. I don't get paid enough to care about on time performance.
Old 01-05-2016 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline
The trip credit and block credit is predicted by the computer based on a running history. So all you guys doing .80-.82 are shooting us in the foot. Last day last trip i get the .82, but otherwise the faster you fly the less credit the trip is worth in the future. Hell my leg back from Mexico today we flew it at .70 because of a strong tail wind with a GS of 390. Total over block = .6......... Over block= more hours= more pay. And now with wifi on board you can do all that you normally would during a sit in the terminal so why rush. Plus after the last TA who gives a s*it. I aint doing the company any favors. I don't get paid enough to care about on time performance.
I can't stand being trapped inside a tin can at 38,000 ft next to an FO that I have nothing in common with, AND two aisle donkeys that will be gone in a month. You just know it's going to be bad when they start in with small talk... Justin Bieber who? You like Obama? Arghhhh
Old 01-05-2016 | 10:06 PM
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People really fly the ejet at or bellow .65?
Old 01-05-2016 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline
The trip credit and block credit is predicted by the computer based on a running history. So all you guys doing .80-.82 are shooting us in the foot. Last day last trip i get the .82, but otherwise the faster you fly the less credit the trip is worth in the future. Hell my leg back from Mexico today we flew it at .70 because of a strong tail wind with a GS of 390. Total over block = .6......... Over block= more hours= more pay. And now with wifi on board you can do all that you normally would during a sit in the terminal so why rush. Plus after the last TA who gives a s*it. I aint doing the company any favors. I don't get paid enough to care about on time performance.
You don't get paid enough- yet you pay for the go-go wifi ??
Old 01-06-2016 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 900drver
You don't get paid enough- yet you pay for the go-go wifi ??
It is different for the United side is all I'm going to say. Not advocating anything when it comes to what you do with it when airborne but there are more options on United.

And we do sometimes fly .65 or slower. Especially if we want to get to a higher altitude. Our ceiling is dependent upon a few factors, one of which produces an inverse correlation between speed and altitude. Basically, the slower we go, the higher we can go.
Old 01-06-2016 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 900drver
You don't get paid enough- yet you pay for the go-go wifi ??
Grab 4 buds and buy the year pass and split it. Cheeper than my data plan on my cell phone per month.
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