HeavyD

A coordinated campaign that, "In the Interest of Safety", no airplane should move unless it's 100% airworthy and the crews are 100% rested and nourished. If the guy in DSM, whom received the $870,000,000 payday last month, wants to take us to court then we dip into the building fund money. Then the coordinated campaign becomes a public-facing campaign utilizing the WSJ if deemed necessary.

FracCracka

We can’t dip into the funds for our union hall. Then we won’t have an airline-worthy union hall to go with our not-airline-worthy contract.

I guess we’re lucky that we aren’t an airline after all.

obiden

BS, that is exactly the message on the union board under the IBI '23 thread, directly from Pedro...

NetJets does not currently have the profits to
support an IBI

Idk how you misconstrue that as anything other than what it says in plain english. So you're either a fool or a liar.

GeeWizDriver

I agree. I think we may have already missed our window. The recession will become more obvious with every passing day and the company has just been playing stall ball. Their strategy will pay dividends for them, bupkus for us.

727C47

we have one of the best unions in the industry , up the union, NJASAP💙

MinRest

I will say, in the way of unions, I really respected NJASAP. During the mascara CEO era, I think NJASAP did a pretty good job at combating a really toxic management, although I don't think the 2015 CBA was all that spectacular (most did based on the voting though).

Now I have no idea as I am no longer there, but I do think the FDP program was devastating to the union and pilot group, and I have said so since its inception. It was a total win for management in reducing fatigue calls and if you work super hard it can be a win for pilots in terms of pay but it never really addressed the salary or scheduling issues, it merely made pilots ok with it. I think the honeymoon phase of FDP seems to be wearing based on the comments so now NJASAP will have the hard task of trying to navigate that with a real CBA and not these little handshake extensions to really remain competitive.

I would take NJASAP over any Teamsters and for sure UALs NC and MEC lol.

MinRest

All these companies are so reactive. It really is frustrating. They won't care until they can't fill classes and lose more pilots than they gain each month.

shrsailplanes

I hear a lot of talk about regional pay and how that will motivate management to reevaluate base salaries. What about how the new regional salaries can’t possibly last? It reminds me of the saying, “The bulb burns brightest before it burns out.”

Maybe regional salaries aren’t the leverage everyone thinks it is.

jtf560

It is massive leverage as long as it makes it hard for the company to fill classes and as long as newer hires are leaving for the regionals. If there isn't a new contract before the regionals stop being able to cause hiring and retention issues, then it amounts to no leverage. That leverage is still ramping up and isn't strong enough yet, but there is always the possibility of a bad enough recession that the regionals stop hiring.

shrsailplanes

I think new hires are leaving to the majors not to the regionals. At least that has been my experience with members of my new hire class a year ago. Most people have a sense of where they want to stay for their careers. If they want to go to the majors, they might choose a place like netjets to get what they need because regional pay used to be much less than netjets. Now those pilots will opt for the regionals rather than bouncing off of netjets. If netjets wants to compete as a career destination they need to be looking at what the majors are offering. Base pay for sure but also direct contribution to 401K.