Originally Posted by Jetlife
(Post 2651463)
Speaking of how much AMF is behind the times and has no idea how much trouble they’re in, they just increased BE99 captain pay to 50k. There are endless amounts jet FO jobs with schedules that pay more than that. AMF is in some real trouble...
I just can't see multi turboprop time being THAT valuable in the current pilot job market. |
Originally Posted by Jetlife
(Post 2651463)
Speaking of how much AMF is behind the times and has no idea how much trouble they’re in, they just increased BE99 captain pay to 50k. There are endless amounts jet FO jobs with schedules that pay more than that. AMF is in some real trouble...
skywest is way behind that, horizon is behind that, compass is behind that, etc. |
Also i'm looking at UPS requirements and AMF seems like it would be a good precursor if you wanted to go to UPS.
Basic Qualifications Hold a current unrestricted ATP certificate with an Airplane category multi-engine class rating and English proficiency endorsement Hold a current FAA First Class Medical Certificate Hold an FCC Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit Hold a valid passport Have authorization to work in the United States Have a minimum of 1500 hours of total fixed-wing pilot time Preferred Qualifications: Bachelor's degree or higher from an accredited college or university Recent and type of experience will be considered; for example, preference given to candidates with demonstrated flight experience in transport category aircraft within the last 12 months from date of application Minimum of 1000 hours Pilot in Command (PIC) hours in fixed-wing jet and/or fixed-wing multi-engine turboprop Would I be mistaken assuming that it would be possible to go from AMF straight to UPS after a few years? |
Originally Posted by Luewk
(Post 2651499)
Would I be mistaken assuming that it would be possible to go from AMF straight to UPS after a few years? I'm pretty sure that has not happened in the past 10 years, not once. UPS has plenty of qualified jet guys applying. No need to take the turboprop cowboys. According to the UPS forums here, the competitive mins for UPS for a civilian guy are around 6-7000hrs total with plenty of jet 121, preferably heavy, time. |
Can anyone please tell me why AMF requires the same amount of PIC time (500 hours) for EMB120 FOs and Accelerated Captain Program FOs, when the Total Time Requirements are 500 hours and 800 hours respectively?
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Originally Posted by Luewk
(Post 2651497)
It does still beat a lot of regional pay though.
skywest is way behind that, horizon is behind that, compass is behind that, etc. Honestly the AMF payscale is still very much behind. You are talking about being a captain on a turbo prop. You can go make double that flying a King Air. Not trying to crap on AMF but man, it’s baltenly obvious where the issues are and what needs to be fixed. I figured guys in turboprop stuff were starting at 75k. |
Originally Posted by Jetlife
(Post 2651620)
There are people that make 50k at both Horizon and Skywest their first year. It’s easily doable. I don’t think it beats regional pay overall. Plus regional pay is too dynamic. The typical 5 day AMF schedule gives maybe 10 days off a month. If you worked a regional job and only had 10 days a month off you could make some pretty good money.
Honestly the AMF payscale is still very much behind. You are talking about being a captain on a turbo prop. You can go make double that flying a King Air. Not trying to crap on AMF but man, it’s baltenly obvious where the issues are and what needs to be fixed. I figured guys in turboprop stuff were starting at 75k. It seems like Cfi/135 - regionals - major is still the best/most practical way to do things. |
Originally Posted by Luewk
(Post 2651652)
Well thanks for the input man I appreciate it. Thanks to anyone else who contributes info here also. Just trying to figure out what to do after instructing/if I need to do CFI all the way to ATP minimums.
It seems like Cfi/135 - regionals - major is still the best/most practical way to do things. Don't even dream about going to Majors from AMF. It just does not work that way. |
Originally Posted by Jetlife
(Post 2651620)
There are people that make 50k at both Horizon and Skywest their first year. It’s easily doable. I don’t think it beats regional pay overall. Plus regional pay is too dynamic. The typical 5 day AMF schedule gives maybe 10 days off a month. If you worked a regional job and only had 10 days a month off you could make some pretty good money.
Honestly the AMF payscale is still very much behind. You are talking about being a captain on a turbo prop. You can go make double that flying a King Air. Not trying to crap on AMF but man, it’s baltenly obvious where the issues are and what needs to be fixed. I figured guys in turboprop stuff were starting at 75k. The payscale and bonus system is currently getting simplified a bit...some bonuses are getting rolled into the regular pay to make it simpler to understand...and more tax advantageous. Unfortunately the bonuses structure makes calculations of actual yearly pay harder, but it's getting better. The only people that start at 50k are the lowest multi time hires...often ACP upgrade for the first few months... A BE-19/SA-227 new hire starts at 67k (may also get a 10k when the check ride is passed and 10k at 18 months)....then another 20 k if you stay to about 36 months in the form of the peak to peak bonus (might be 6-8+ more depending on the season you start). So many first year and pilots beat the 75k by a fair bit, especially if you stay 3 years. And like at many places, OT is available, as are TDY assignments that both may extra... likewise a HBC that does an extra weeks work for OT is a decent $$ ...do it a couple times a year when you are scheduled for two weeks off, and it adds up. |
Originally Posted by ZippyNH
(Post 2651864)
Most do...
And like at many places, OT is available, as are TDY assignments that both may extra... likewise a HBC that does an extra weeks work for OT is a decent $$ ...do it a couple times a year when you are scheduled for two weeks off, and it adds up. |
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