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09-02-2013 | 04:37 PM
#2112
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I don't think I've EVER seen this written about seafeye. EVER.
Regardless, you 'Streakers better get ready for a sh&$ sandwich buffet because nothing ever good happens at PSA. This mess is a perfect example.
Good luck.
09-02-2013 | 05:15 PM
#2113
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From: CRJ 200/700/900 CA & Instructor
I think this will pass. The top 100 pilots at PSA always fall for the same old tricks. i.e.: either vote yes or die.
They have little to lose if passed. Their pay will be frozen at whatever year they are at. Most likely 18. If pay freezes at year 12 then they will be grandfathered into and lose nothing.
Those with 10-14 years at PSA have a lot to lose if pay gets frozen. Also hear that f/o's may have pay frozen at year 4. To me regional f/o's are totally underpaid and to cap them off at year 4 is horrible. But they may vote yes for this because of a quick upgrade.
Kind of short sighted because once the growth stops, or we lose the 200's then we will be back in the same position we are in today. I would hate to be a 8 year f/o on 4th year pay flying for reduced 900 rates.
Also a preferential interview is next to useless. This isn't a carrot, it's worthless.
We also hear that we are going to get 30-40 airplanes. Well 40 airplanes is 320 pilots to hire. And we will have 5 a month go to airways. Our CP say he wants to hire 25/month. Just not sure where they are going to come from. Expecially if the f/o pay caps out at year 4.
Of course the Union has not released details of this TA. We can only guess what is in the deal.
They have little to lose if passed. Their pay will be frozen at whatever year they are at. Most likely 18. If pay freezes at year 12 then they will be grandfathered into and lose nothing.
Those with 10-14 years at PSA have a lot to lose if pay gets frozen. Also hear that f/o's may have pay frozen at year 4. To me regional f/o's are totally underpaid and to cap them off at year 4 is horrible. But they may vote yes for this because of a quick upgrade.
Kind of short sighted because once the growth stops, or we lose the 200's then we will be back in the same position we are in today. I would hate to be a 8 year f/o on 4th year pay flying for reduced 900 rates.
Also a preferential interview is next to useless. This isn't a carrot, it's worthless.
We also hear that we are going to get 30-40 airplanes. Well 40 airplanes is 320 pilots to hire. And we will have 5 a month go to airways. Our CP say he wants to hire 25/month. Just not sure where they are going to come from. Expecially if the f/o pay caps out at year 4.
Of course the Union has not released details of this TA. We can only guess what is in the deal.
09-02-2013 | 05:34 PM
#2114
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I just don't understand when we're on the precipice of a massive shortage of pilots (at the regional level) why people would vote in concessionary contracts. For once, pilots will have the leverage and everyone seems ready to vote it away so they can get a few new airplanes when most people will be heading to the majors in a few years anyway.
09-02-2013 | 05:52 PM
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From: GV Captain
I just don't understand when we're on the precipice of a massive shortage of pilots (at the regional level) why people would vote in concessionary contracts. For once, pilots will have the leverage and everyone seems ready to vote it away so they can get a few new airplanes when most people will be heading to the majors in a few years anyway.
09-02-2013 | 06:39 PM
#2116
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From: French-Canadian
So AE, Pinnacle, PDT, PSA, SKW, EXJ and RAH somewhat have a senior pilot group but we allowe them to compare us to GoJet and Compass whom have like 800 pilots total. Most of our regionals are carrying that many RSV pilots. Same **** different airline
09-02-2013 | 07:01 PM
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I just don't understand when we're on the precipice of a massive shortage of pilots (at the regional level) why people would vote in concessionary contracts. For once, pilots will have the leverage and everyone seems ready to vote it away so they can get a few new airplanes when most people will be heading to the majors in a few years anyway.
Personally i have had it with the lack of ethics at US Airways. And that some senior pilots bend over each and every time they are threatened. Grow a pair. So flipping what if airways gives the airplanes to eagle or slow jets.
We still have to see the real deal, till then this is all just rumors.
09-02-2013 | 07:26 PM
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From: CRJ 200/700/900 CA & Instructor
I know right? I'm as surprised as you.
Senior pilots are already spreading rumors that PSA will close like Comair if we do not accept the TA. Many f/o's are excited about the prospect of movement. It would actually be a pay raise because the 900 rates are higher. But at the cost of…..CA and F/O pay topping out.
Personally i have had it with the lack of ethics at US Airways. And that some senior pilots bend over each and every time they are threatened. Grow a pair. So flipping what if airways gives the airplanes to eagle or slow jets.
We still have to see the real deal, till then this is all just rumors.
Senior pilots are already spreading rumors that PSA will close like Comair if we do not accept the TA. Many f/o's are excited about the prospect of movement. It would actually be a pay raise because the 900 rates are higher. But at the cost of…..CA and F/O pay topping out.
Personally i have had it with the lack of ethics at US Airways. And that some senior pilots bend over each and every time they are threatened. Grow a pair. So flipping what if airways gives the airplanes to eagle or slow jets.
We still have to see the real deal, till then this is all just rumors.
Last edited by bradeku1008; 09-02-2013 at 07:39 PM.
09-02-2013 | 07:36 PM
#2120
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If PSA gets better pay and a better contract to fly these planes then more power to them. If they take concessions and further lower the bar for everyone else for their own selfish interests, then I may have to start calling them as*holes.
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