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Old 09-06-2013 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PSASUX
Two questions. First one is who is next in line to get these planes if/when this TA is voted down? Secondly, will the next group accept a horrible TA?
MESA is next in line, and just like is its 50/50 if the accept.
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Old 09-06-2013 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nanceystyles
This TA is the new low for the industry. I hope you guys take a stance for what is right. Everyone needs to unite. This TA is a complete joke and basically says that you are worthless, skill-less and unappreciated. You are worth more than that..... At least I hope so.
No AE asking for a B Scale and putting that thought in management head was the new low. That was the opening line according to our NC. Airways mgt team didn't understand why those on property care about those not hired. Thus a B scale saves them more money but covers current pilots to the highest dollar they can earn. Who put b scale out there? Oh that's right AEs Negotiating Committee.
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Old 09-06-2013 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mason32
Do you understand what a B scale us?

You're going to be having senior CA's frozen on 17 year pay; but junior CA's after them are capped at 12 year pay... and all FO's now being capped at 4 years...

You really don't understand a B scale at all do you?
No again you don't understand. It sucks but by definition isn't a B Scale. Use the darn words right if you are throwing accusations out there.

You're the same guy calling all Gojet pilots scabs aren't you? Figures.
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Old 09-06-2013 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Surprisingly our MEC voted down our given turd, something that your MEC failed to do. Your turd will pass and you guys will be joining the ranks of bottom feeders.

We might go down in flames, but not as a bottom scumbag outfit.
Again your ignorance is astounding. You have no clue. 4/6 DIDN'T support a yes vote but thought letting the pilots decide was best. Do I agree with that? No. A MEC needs to make the hard decision and if they don't want to they need to step down.

I have little respect for a MEC not saying NO all together if that's how they felt. Somehow this got out to vote although 4/6 now claim they didn't support with a yes but rather support the decision to let the pilot group decide? I didn't think that was an option but here we are.....
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Old 09-06-2013 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
No AE asking for a B Scale and putting that thought in management head was the new low. That was the opening line according to our NC. Airways mgt team didn't understand why those on property care about those not hired. Thus a B scale saves them more money but covers current pilots to the highest dollar they can earn. Who put b scale out there? Oh that's right AEs Negotiating Committee.
Why do you keep bring up Eagle? Get over it. Eagle MEC voted it down regardless of who brought it up. You sound like the kids at the playground screaming about "who started it."

The ball is in your court not Eagles. If you want a concessionary contract you have the right to vote yes (which it almost sounds obvious that you will be doing).

Call it a A scale, call it a B scale, or a Z scale, but an apple is an apple no matter what it's called...it's concessionary and a slap in the face.

If you feel so inclined read my last post directed at you, because again I'm not telling you (or your group) how to vote but be prepared to live with the consequences if you do vote this thing in.
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Old 09-06-2013 | 04:04 AM
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That ta can result in two pilots making two different rate. How is that not a b scale?
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Old 09-06-2013 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin
That ta can result in two pilots making two different rate. How is that not a b scale?
Go ask an AA pilot on the 1980s proposed B Scale. Or UALs B Scale. Then you'll understand what it is. Or if really bored ALPA has information on it as well....
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Old 09-06-2013 | 04:14 AM
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Funny thing is I'm kind of thinking no merger is best. Solves this issue and lets RAH monopolize the large AA feed.....
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Old 09-06-2013 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
Funny thing is I'm kind of thinking no merger is best. Solves this issue and lets RAH monopolize the large AA feed.....
Are you part of the DOJ or maybe on the BOD of LCC or AMR? If not I guess it doesn't matter what you think about the merger. Don't overwhelm yourself with matters that big.
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Old 09-06-2013 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SkylineAviation
Are you part of the DOJ or maybe on the BOD of LCC or AMR? If not I guess it doesn't matter what you think about the merger. Don't overwhelm yourself with matters that big.
Haha that makes zero sense. I hope you're not an AE pilot because they're better then this.
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