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09-10-2013 | 08:05 AM
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From what I was just told they are going to go back to Eagle giving them the same deal regardless of what happens in this vote. If we vote it down and Eagle votes it down then Mesa is next in line. If we vote it down US Airway MGT told PSA they are going to shut us down in 2020. Awesome!!
09-10-2013 | 08:10 AM
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09-10-2013 | 08:19 AM
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From what I was just told they are going to go back to Eagle giving them the same deal regardless of what happens in this vote. If we vote it down and Eagle votes it down then Mesa is next in line. If we vote it down US Airway MGT told PSA they are going to shut us down in 2020. Awesome!!
The most mind boggling aspect of this is the guaranteed/forced interview written into the TA. For years PSA pilots have had a harder time getting on at Airways than pilots from other regionals because we are wholly owned. All it took was PSA's president calling airways and letting them know we have staffing problems so Airways HR takes no PSA pilots for a while. Airways HR has revealed this before saying they're under those orders. Now new PSA Captains have to wait to interview in seniority if this TA passes and risk getting their pay frozen back at PSA if they don't make it.
With typical attrition PSA pilots have had problems getting on at Airways due to staffing issue here. Now that's all going to majically change with this TA? Airways suddenly won't care about it's WO's staffing problems that will perpeptuate further as PSA caps FO pay at 4 yrs for pilots that already have ATP/1500 hrs, word gets out the PSA pilots are being denied jumpseats, and attrition of pilots to any "career" airline blow through the roof? Of couse Airways cares and that's why they included all the conditional language so they can do whatever they want regarding this carront on stick flow thing.
Also, I am confident that if this does pass, Airways/AA will still be going to Mesa and back to Eagle with the join the club or else speil.
09-10-2013 | 08:35 AM
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Going back to Eagle IF PSA votes this down or going back with this deal regardless? Ideally the new AA would want all the wholly owns to be under this garbage TA or possibly merged together as the largest bottom feeder airline on planet earth which will affect the entire industry globally. And if they don't get it with the WOs then they'll go to Mesa for some real whipsaw action. PSA has voted down growth planes in the past and most likely will be doing it again.
The most mind boggling aspect of this is the guaranteed/forced interview written into the TA. For years PSA pilots have had a harder time getting on at Airways than pilots from other regionals because we are wholly owned. All it took was PSA's president calling airways and letting them know we have staffing problems so Airways HR takes no PSA pilots for a while. Airways HR has revealed this before saying they're under those orders. Now new PSA Captains have to wait to interview in seniority if this TA passes and risk getting their pay frozen back at PSA if they don't make it.
With typical attrition PSA pilots have had problems getting on at Airways due to staffing issue here. Now that's all going to majically change with this TA? Airways suddenly won't care about it's WO's staffing problems that will perpeptuate further as PSA caps FO pay at 4 yrs for pilots that already have ATP/1500 hrs, word gets out the PSA pilots are being denied jumpseats, and attrition of pilots to any "career" airline blow through the roof? Of couse Airways cares and that's why they included all the conditional language so they can do whatever they want regarding this carront on stick flow thing.
Also, I am confident that if this does pass, Airways/AA will still be going to Mesa and back to Eagle with the join the club or else speil.
The most mind boggling aspect of this is the guaranteed/forced interview written into the TA. For years PSA pilots have had a harder time getting on at Airways than pilots from other regionals because we are wholly owned. All it took was PSA's president calling airways and letting them know we have staffing problems so Airways HR takes no PSA pilots for a while. Airways HR has revealed this before saying they're under those orders. Now new PSA Captains have to wait to interview in seniority if this TA passes and risk getting their pay frozen back at PSA if they don't make it.
With typical attrition PSA pilots have had problems getting on at Airways due to staffing issue here. Now that's all going to majically change with this TA? Airways suddenly won't care about it's WO's staffing problems that will perpeptuate further as PSA caps FO pay at 4 yrs for pilots that already have ATP/1500 hrs, word gets out the PSA pilots are being denied jumpseats, and attrition of pilots to any "career" airline blow through the roof? Of couse Airways cares and that's why they included all the conditional language so they can do whatever they want regarding this carront on stick flow thing.
Also, I am confident that if this does pass, Airways/AA will still be going to Mesa and back to Eagle with the join the club or else speil.
If management needs to be more competative; I'd suggest THEY take concessions.
I once knew of a company where the stockholders and BOD implemented a rule that prohibited ANY management salary that was greater than 3 times the highest paid front line employee. Needless to say; management did everything they could to ensure the front line employees were well compensated. It wasn't an airline, but the principle was sound.
09-10-2013 | 05:13 PM
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The only time PSA was offered 900's, it was voted down back in 2006-2007. And republic got bunch if E jets out of it. This is the second time they're offering. Many thinks it'll be the last time they'll come to us. I won't be surprised. But I personally don't want to contribute to the race to bottom so I voted no. Possible earlier upgrades were VERY tempting to say the least...
09-10-2013 | 05:46 PM
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Under what bases they asking for concessions anyway? The economy is improving, the price of oil is relatively stable at around $100 a barrel, forecast to go down with increase in nat gas production, pilots now need more experience with the new regulations, there is a shortage of qualified pilots at the regional level, and the real kicker is U.S. Airways is making record profits right now.
Everything points to a pay rise, not the opposite. Its easy for me to say but why would anyone in their right mind even entertain this offer? I would like to see the MEC counter with a 5% pay increase across the board, an increase in per diem, and a decrease in health insurance premiums.
Why should you be forced to work for U.S. airways anyway? Certainly wouldn't be my first choice.
Just my opinion.
Good luck guys.
Everything points to a pay rise, not the opposite. Its easy for me to say but why would anyone in their right mind even entertain this offer? I would like to see the MEC counter with a 5% pay increase across the board, an increase in per diem, and a decrease in health insurance premiums.
Why should you be forced to work for U.S. airways anyway? Certainly wouldn't be my first choice.
Just my opinion.
Good luck guys.
09-10-2013 | 05:50 PM
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