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04-25-2015 | 01:18 PM
#3461
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2014
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For the people who are looking to come to PSA, do you understand that you're not eligible to apply to American Airlines?? I don't understand why a new hire would even come here. There are only 3 legacy carriers left and you can't even go to one of them unless you go in seniority order....which will take 20 years....and in those 20 years at PSA you'll have to do about 240 pay claims because PSA tries to short change you on every ******g pay check...this place is such a miserable pos do not come here, you will be sorry I promise
04-25-2015 | 02:16 PM
#3462
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You forget... PSA has a guaranteed interview, in seniority order, not a flow. They can't violate a CBA between the company and ALPA.
04-25-2015 | 02:30 PM
#3463
patience
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Right now, guys with 12 years longevity are flowing to mainline. Best case scenario, guys with 9 years longevity might go to AA by years end. A junior pilot has a much higher change of getting on with United within the next five year than AA.
04-25-2015 | 02:35 PM
#3464
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From: CL65
As things sit right now, you are absolutely correct. Let's hope that things will improve.
04-25-2015 | 03:28 PM
#3465
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From: Beach Chair
I have read into past pages and have not found answers to a few questions I have about PSA. Your time in offering your knowledge and opinions to some of these questions is much appreciated.
1.- What is the likely base assigned out of training for a new hire? How long to hold CLT or TYS? How long could reserve be expected in these bases ?
2.- Why is TYS a base ? (Mx) ? I dont see many PSA flights out of there.
3.- Is the preferential interview with AA now considered a flow ? Why does the company state that an FO can interview with AA after 1 yr., yet I have read in previous comments that the flow for a new hire could take 9 years?
4.- Regarding Captain upgrade. Some carriers allow a mix of 121/135 time towards the 1000 total SIC req. to upgrade. Is there a specific reg. regarding this ? or is it a case by case basis at airline discretion ? would 135 PIC time in a passenger carrying turboprop (certified for more than 10 seats) count towards the 1000 hours ?
5.- Do you guys feel that a new hire would be better off at Mesa or PSA (careers wise) ?
6.- How much can an FO at PSA expect to make during the first year if they are able to pick up a reasonable amount of extra flying ?
7.- What does the interview process at PSA consist of ?
Cheers!
1.- What is the likely base assigned out of training for a new hire? How long to hold CLT or TYS? How long could reserve be expected in these bases ?
2.- Why is TYS a base ? (Mx) ? I dont see many PSA flights out of there.
3.- Is the preferential interview with AA now considered a flow ? Why does the company state that an FO can interview with AA after 1 yr., yet I have read in previous comments that the flow for a new hire could take 9 years?
4.- Regarding Captain upgrade. Some carriers allow a mix of 121/135 time towards the 1000 total SIC req. to upgrade. Is there a specific reg. regarding this ? or is it a case by case basis at airline discretion ? would 135 PIC time in a passenger carrying turboprop (certified for more than 10 seats) count towards the 1000 hours ?
5.- Do you guys feel that a new hire would be better off at Mesa or PSA (careers wise) ?
6.- How much can an FO at PSA expect to make during the first year if they are able to pick up a reasonable amount of extra flying ?
7.- What does the interview process at PSA consist of ?
Cheers!
04-25-2015 | 04:03 PM
#3466
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From: CL65
1.- What is the likely base assigned out of training for a new hire? How long to hold CLT or TYS? How long could reserve be expected in these bases ?
You should be able to hold any base within a month of finishing IOE, if not sooner.
2.- Why is TYS a base ? (Mx) ? I dont see many PSA flights out of there.
There are a decent number of flights. It is a MX base.
3.- Is the preferential interview with AA now considered a flow ? Why does the company state that an FO can interview with AA after 1 yr., yet I have read in previous comments that the flow for a new hire could take 9 years?
I have no idea about the 1 year thing. It is currently an SSP, but some speculate it will become a real flow. We should all find out in the next few weeks.
4.- Regarding Captain upgrade. Some carriers allow a mix of 121/135 time towards the 1000 total SIC req. to upgrade. Is there a specific reg. regarding this ? or is it a case by case basis at airline discretion ? would 135 PIC time in a passenger carrying turboprop (certified for more than 10 seats) count towards the 1000 hours ?
It is an FAA requirement. Part 135K counts, but not just part 135. Right now, if you meet the minimum requirements, you can upgrade immediately after finishing IOE.
5.- Do you guys feel that a new hire would be better off at Mesa or PSA (careers wise) ?
This is strictly an opinion. I will leave that to you to decide.
6.- How much can an FO at PSA expect to make during the first year if they are able to pick up a reasonable amount of extra flying ?
During training, you get per diem 24/7, so pay is decent ($3000/mo). After that, if you don't mind working, 85+ hours is certainly attainable. You can hold a line earlier in TYS than CLT, so that is a consideration.
7.- What does the interview process at PSA consist of ?
Www.aviationinterviews.com. Many good gouges to review.
You should be able to hold any base within a month of finishing IOE, if not sooner.
2.- Why is TYS a base ? (Mx) ? I dont see many PSA flights out of there.
There are a decent number of flights. It is a MX base.
3.- Is the preferential interview with AA now considered a flow ? Why does the company state that an FO can interview with AA after 1 yr., yet I have read in previous comments that the flow for a new hire could take 9 years?
I have no idea about the 1 year thing. It is currently an SSP, but some speculate it will become a real flow. We should all find out in the next few weeks.
4.- Regarding Captain upgrade. Some carriers allow a mix of 121/135 time towards the 1000 total SIC req. to upgrade. Is there a specific reg. regarding this ? or is it a case by case basis at airline discretion ? would 135 PIC time in a passenger carrying turboprop (certified for more than 10 seats) count towards the 1000 hours ?
It is an FAA requirement. Part 135K counts, but not just part 135. Right now, if you meet the minimum requirements, you can upgrade immediately after finishing IOE.
5.- Do you guys feel that a new hire would be better off at Mesa or PSA (careers wise) ?
This is strictly an opinion. I will leave that to you to decide.
6.- How much can an FO at PSA expect to make during the first year if they are able to pick up a reasonable amount of extra flying ?
During training, you get per diem 24/7, so pay is decent ($3000/mo). After that, if you don't mind working, 85+ hours is certainly attainable. You can hold a line earlier in TYS than CLT, so that is a consideration.
7.- What does the interview process at PSA consist of ?
Www.aviationinterviews.com. Many good gouges to review.
04-25-2015 | 04:13 PM
#3467
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Joined: Feb 2013
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1.- What is the likely base assigned out of training for a new hire? How long to hold CLT or TYS? How long could reserve be expected in these bases ?
You should be able to hold any base within a month of finishing IOE, if not sooner.
2.- Why is TYS a base ? (Mx) ? I dont see many PSA flights out of there.
There are a decent number of flights. It is a MX base.
3.- Is the preferential interview with AA now considered a flow ? Why does the company state that an FO can interview with AA after 1 yr., yet I have read in previous comments that the flow for a new hire could take 9 years?
I have no idea about the 1 year thing. It is currently an SSP, but some speculate it will become a real flow. We should all find out in the next few weeks.
4.- Regarding Captain upgrade. Some carriers allow a mix of 121/135 time towards the 1000 total SIC req. to upgrade. Is there a specific reg. regarding this ? or is it a case by case basis at airline discretion ? would 135 PIC time in a passenger carrying turboprop (certified for more than 10 seats) count towards the 1000 hours ?
It is an FAA requirement. Part 135K counts, but not just part 135. Right now, if you meet the minimum requirements, you can upgrade immediately after finishing IOE.
5.- Do you guys feel that a new hire would be better off at Mesa or PSA (careers wise) ?
This is strictly an opinion. I will leave that to you to decide.
6.- How much can an FO at PSA expect to make during the first year if they are able to pick up a reasonable amount of extra flying ?
During training, you get per diem 24/7, so pay is decent ($3000/mo). After that, if you don't mind working, 85+ hours is certainly attainable. You can hold a line earlier in TYS than CLT, so that is a consideration.
7.- What does the interview process at PSA consist of ?
Www.aviationinterviews.com. Many good gouges to review.
You should be able to hold any base within a month of finishing IOE, if not sooner.
2.- Why is TYS a base ? (Mx) ? I dont see many PSA flights out of there.
There are a decent number of flights. It is a MX base.
3.- Is the preferential interview with AA now considered a flow ? Why does the company state that an FO can interview with AA after 1 yr., yet I have read in previous comments that the flow for a new hire could take 9 years?
I have no idea about the 1 year thing. It is currently an SSP, but some speculate it will become a real flow. We should all find out in the next few weeks.
4.- Regarding Captain upgrade. Some carriers allow a mix of 121/135 time towards the 1000 total SIC req. to upgrade. Is there a specific reg. regarding this ? or is it a case by case basis at airline discretion ? would 135 PIC time in a passenger carrying turboprop (certified for more than 10 seats) count towards the 1000 hours ?
It is an FAA requirement. Part 135K counts, but not just part 135. Right now, if you meet the minimum requirements, you can upgrade immediately after finishing IOE.
5.- Do you guys feel that a new hire would be better off at Mesa or PSA (careers wise) ?
This is strictly an opinion. I will leave that to you to decide.
6.- How much can an FO at PSA expect to make during the first year if they are able to pick up a reasonable amount of extra flying ?
During training, you get per diem 24/7, so pay is decent ($3000/mo). After that, if you don't mind working, 85+ hours is certainly attainable. You can hold a line earlier in TYS than CLT, so that is a consideration.
7.- What does the interview process at PSA consist of ?
Www.aviationinterviews.com. Many good gouges to review.
04-25-2015 | 04:20 PM
#3468
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From: CL65
"Have a minimum of 1,000 flight hours in air carrier operations as an SIC in part 121 operations, a PIC in operations under either § 135.243(a)(1) or§ 91.1053(a)(2)(i), or any combination of these.3"
04-25-2015 | 04:30 PM
#3469
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My understanding is that it does not need to be a turbojet. A Q400 or EMB120 will work just fine as long as it is part 121 or part 135 passenger, or park 91k. Am I wrong?
"Have a minimum of 1,000 flight hours in air carrier operations as an SIC in part 121 operations, a PIC in operations under either § 135.243(a)(1) or§ 91.1053(a)(2)(i), or any combination of these.3"
"Have a minimum of 1,000 flight hours in air carrier operations as an SIC in part 121 operations, a PIC in operations under either § 135.243(a)(1) or§ 91.1053(a)(2)(i), or any combination of these.3"
§ 135.243 Pilot in command qualifications. (a) No certificate holder may use a person, nor may any person serve, as pilot in command in passenger-carrying operations—
(1) Of a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger-seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119 of this chapter, unless that person holds an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings and, if required, an appropriate type rating for that airplane.
(1) Of a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger-seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119 of this chapter, unless that person holds an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings and, if required, an appropriate type rating for that airplane.
04-25-2015 | 04:33 PM
#3470
Banned
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My understanding is that it does not need to be a turbojet. A Q400 or EMB120 will work just fine as long as it is part 121 or part 135 passenger, or park 91k. Am I wrong?
"Have a minimum of 1,000 flight hours in air carrier operations as an SIC in part 121 operations, a PIC in operations under either § 135.243(a)(1) or§ 91.1053(a)(2)(i), or any combination of these.3"
"Have a minimum of 1,000 flight hours in air carrier operations as an SIC in part 121 operations, a PIC in operations under either § 135.243(a)(1) or§ 91.1053(a)(2)(i), or any combination of these.3"
FAR Part 135.243(a)(1) PIC time
To apply 135 PIC time toward upgrade, you must have been serving as the PIC, in a passenger carrying operation, in a turbojet airplane with 10 or more passenger seats (Must be passenger seats. Do not count crewmember seats). Any other 135 PIC time does not count toward upgrade requirements.
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