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Old 06-02-2015 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
That's what I said weeks ago, but people took it as PSA bashing instead of what it was.

Envoy stay larger longer; long enough for the new planes to arrive and prevent massive shrinking, upgrades begin, and flow moves everybody in under 6 years.

PSA gets to catch up on their staffing issue

AAG gets to keep their planes in the air making coin

Follow the money; always works.
Don't confuse the few PSA idiots on here with everyone at PSA, Envoy has their unofficial flame baiters too.

The numbers I have heard is the flow will be less than 6 years at all three wholly owned carriers in the future when AA decides to take 100% of their new hires through the flow agreements. Makes sense to take more from Envoy now since they are the most senior, it saves them the most $ like you said.
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Old 06-02-2015 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
He will figure that out some day. Right now he is camping out in moms basement eating cheesy poofs and waiting for that IOE call.
What the he'll are you mumbling about now? Put your trifocals on and read it again grandpa. This is three times in the last week I have absolutely owned your a$$. It's embarrassing for you is what it is. Someone please explain it to him I've lost interest in confusing him.
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Old 06-02-2015 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
What the he'll are you mumbling about now? Put your trifocals on and read it again grandpa. This is three times in the last week I have absolutely owned your a$$. It's embarrassing for you is what it is. Someone please explain it to him I've lost interest in confusing him.
Some one please explain how you both satisfy the age requirement to work for an airline.
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Old 06-02-2015 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
What the he'll are you mumbling about now? Put your trifocals on and read it again grandpa. This is three times in the last week I have absolutely owned your a$$. It's embarrassing for you is what it is. Someone please explain it to him I've lost interest in confusing him.
I get banned for saying derogatory stuff but to pick on people by age is downright disgusting. T38 UAL PHLYER does this one get to fly?
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Old 06-02-2015 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
I get banned for saying derogatory stuff but to pick on people by age is downright disgusting. T38 UAL PHLYER does this one get to fly?

So crusader is allowed to refer to everyone he disagrees with as "kiddo" but when FirstClass calls him "grandpa" you throw a fit? Gotcha.
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Old 06-02-2015 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DOGIII
So crusader is allowed to refer to everyone he disagrees with as "kiddo" but when FirstClass calls him "grandpa" you throw a fit? Gotcha.
Not true. I don't call everyone I disagree with kiddo. Take Pagey for example. We argue all the time, but he isn't childish in his arguments and will admit when he is wrong.

I'm less offended by the grandpa comments(I am one after all) than someone constantly wanting to "own my behind(circumventing the censored words system with $ for an s)".
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Old 06-02-2015 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Not true. I don't call everyone I disagree with kiddo. Take Pagey for example. We argue all the time, but he isn't childish in his arguments and will admit when he is wrong.



I'm less offended by the grandpa comments(I am one after all) than someone constantly wanting to "own my behind(circumventing the censored words system with $ for an s)".

Ok. I have had arguments with you as well, and while some of them were personal in nature I don't remember any personal insults exchanged other than calling me Jerry Glass (which is arguably an insult). But if someone does- matching his level of immaturity seems counterproductive. I don't think FirstClass' choice of words or rhetoric is always smart but it is no reason for talkturkey to request bans just because, for once, the bashing is deflected back to Envoy.

On topic- I would be happy to see Envoy succeed if Envoy let PSA succeed, as opposed to waiting and wishing for its demise around every corner. Perhaps good news in Envoy's future will shift the focus. I would venture to guess that even FirstClass would not wish ill upon Envoy if not provoked.
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Old 06-02-2015 | 10:51 AM
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Don't get too cocky, the schedule is changing again.

If I was AAG management I wouldn't waste my time trying to negotiate away SAP if they can circumvent it via "slow computers".
Cocky? Envoy pilots spent weeks on this thread spreading lies about the 700 not coming here.

I might have missed it, but is there an official memo of the schedule delivery changing? The "700 then 900 then 700" change was done at the beginning of the year, old news.
Originally Posted by Cujo665
That's what I said weeks ago, but people took it as PSA bashing instead of what it was.

Envoy stay larger longer; long enough for the new planes to arrive and prevent massive shrinking, upgrades begin, and flow moves everybody in under 6 years.

PSA gets to catch up on their staffing issue

AAG gets to keep their planes in the air making coin

Follow the money; always works.
This "staffing issue", that people without any real knowledge are talking about, is extremely overrated. It's like calling a car with a flat tire a total loss. Two classes of DEC and the "crisis" is over.
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Old 06-02-2015 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJail
This "staffing issue", that people without any real knowledge are talking about, is extremely overrated. It's like calling a car with a flat tire a total loss. Two classes of DEC and the "crisis" is over.
This is what sank envoy. Previous MEC sold this idea to the pilot group. The entire MEC either Flowed to AA or went to other airlines.
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Old 06-02-2015 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJail
Cocky? Envoy pilots spent weeks on this thread spreading lies about the 700 not coming here.

I might have missed it, but is there an official memo of the schedule delivery changing? The "700 then 900 then 700" change was done at the beginning of the year, old news.

This "staffing issue", that people without any real knowledge are talking about, is extremely overrated. It's like calling a car with a flat tire a total loss. Two classes of DEC and the "crisis" is over.
The delivery schedule changed once already. You really think it isn't changing again? You have an attrition problem, a training bubble, lack of qualified pilots to upgrade now, and your class sizes have shrunk by 1/3rd already too. The handwriting is on the wall. The first batch will be less than your current schedule shows, and the last batch will be delayed longer also.
We'll see who's right soon enough.
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