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Old 11-06-2016 | 06:11 PM
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AA is looking to cut it's regionals by 50% in the next few years. There are 10 companies flying for American Eagle right now. Before too long, it will be 5. I would try to avoid the companies that will be losing contracts in the next few years. AA is trying to grow their WO, and will eliminate the non-WO.

I flew my last flight at PSA, and started class at a new shop this past week. PSA was a great stepping stone for me. My quality of life was great. The new job will pay me a lot more, and is a place that I could spend the next 30 years if I had to. But, I am still hoping that one of the big 3 will call. If not, I will be happy.
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Old 11-06-2016 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MitchRapp
The overall plan is to do what Delta and United do. Seems to be the modus operandi for Ol' AA.
I disagree completely. American seems to be taking a different approach to staffing its flying needs than Delta and United. I think Delta and American have a good idea about how to staff their WO regionals and control their product. United I think will begin falling behind in this respect very soon and their regional feed will be the first to hurt. But hey, the whole regional pilot shortage is about to turn into a train off the tracks by summer 2017. Who knows what happens next...
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Old 11-06-2016 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
AA is looking to cut it's regionals by 50% in the next few years. There are 10 companies flying for American Eagle right now. Before too long, it will be 5. I would try to avoid the companies that will be losing contracts in the next few years. AA is trying to grow their WO, and will eliminate the non-WO.

I flew my last flight at PSA, and started class at a new shop this past week. PSA was a great stepping stone for me. My quality of life was great. The new job will pay me a lot more, and is a place that I could spend the next 30 years if I had to. But, I am still hoping that one of the big 3 will call. If not, I will be happy.
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Old 11-06-2016 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I disagree completely. American seems to be taking a different approach to staffing its flying needs than Delta and United. I think Delta and American have a good idea about how to staff their WO regionals and control their product. United I think will begin falling behind in this respect very soon and their regional feed will be the first to hurt. But hey, the whole regional pilot shortage is about to turn into a train off the tracks by summer 2017. Who knows what happens next...
How so? The flow? I don't think anyone is coming to PSA for 5/month.
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Old 11-06-2016 | 07:29 PM
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How so? The flow? I don't think anyone is coming to PSA for 5/month.
Our flow will increase. It isn't going to stay at 5 /month indefinitely. And I'm talking more so about the overall "big picture". American seems to be taking a completely different approach than DA and UA. American, way more than the others is setting themselves up to try and maintain a larger regional network than their competitors. Which makes sense because they are a larger airline than either DA or UA. They are going for a cradle to grave approach which I don't think is necessarily stupid from their perspective. It helps make costs manageable and predictable. DA and UA seem to want to focus way less on their regionals and take back as much flying as is economically feasible to mainline. Which is good for regional pilots in the short term because it equals more mainline jobs. But what about 5+ years from now? American is setting up the infrastructure to offer a relatively streamlined career experience which I think long term will actually help them recruit pilots.
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Old 11-07-2016 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MitchRapp
How so? The flow? I don't think anyone is coming to PSA for 5/month.

This is the problem. LOA 5 required a snapshot on Jan 1, 2016 of the number of Captains on property. Thereafter, for each net gain of 62 Captains PSA will increase the flow by 1 to a max of 8 per month. In 2016, that trigger never happened. A revisit of the numbers in May was delayed until June. The results are still unknown. 11 months of hiring at Americian triggered a flow for a total of 55 PSA pilots. So PSA can not increase flow without increasing Captains. Upgrades can not happen without filling new hire seats. Direct entry Captains happened for a period of time and it was reported as hurting new hire FO applications. Aircraft transfers were delayed. Upgrades did not happen in each month of 2016. More money, more money has helped fill the seats again. Great first step!

To promote 5-7 years to flow, well the facts do not support it. 1200-1500 pilots, and 5 flows a month, all the attrition in the world does not make that work. It's a vicious circle that has to be broken. PSA can't maintain the FO ranks because it is used as a "stepping stone". Upgrades are based on the FO ranks filled. At the current rate of 5 per month, the career expectations are much greater than 5-7 years. PSA does not support the "build it they will come" concept. At 10 flows per month, a true 5-7 year flow would exist. FO attrition would decrease, more Captains would upgrade, more new hires would come, especially since the money as been improved. Until PSA corrects the flat flow, the stepping stone concept will prevail.
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Old 11-07-2016 | 03:22 AM
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How many 200s does psa currently have parked?
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Old 11-07-2016 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus
Good point but be careful on a non WO regional as these will fail first before a WO. Choose a non WO that is stable. Like SkyWest, Comair, or Air Wisconsin.
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Old 11-07-2016 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MitchRapp
The overall plan is to do what Delta and United do. Seems to be the modus operandi for Ol' AA.
Then why is AAG continuing to buy RJs?
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Old 11-07-2016 | 03:43 AM
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Gentlemen - how long could one expect to wait after sending PSA a begging letter, to receiving a reply regarding an interview?
Assuming, that is, you had an ATP, etc and reasonable hours?
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