Originally Posted by Otto

Do you guys know of any other Comair forums or web boards that are out there? I seem to remember a few people trying to start some a few months back but I'm not sure if they ever took off. Maybe they have now that the ALPA board is history.

Originally Posted by TurboDog

The numerous proposals about reducing the amount of furloughs. Cola, voluntary furloughs and what not. The MEC has been giving ideas to the company(DS) and he has been shooting them down and not sharing any of the info with the Vage.

During the BK the same thing happened. The union was offering many differerent ideas to the company and getting nowhere. It was then that the MEC went straight to Delta. Delta was confuesed as to why the offers weren't taken. Delta agreed with the MEC and then shortly after there was a plan. How bad is it when you have to go around your management to your parent company to get anywhere.

Delta should just get rid of Comair's management and just run the place themselves. How much money would that save over the course of a contract?

Originally Posted by Windshear

I wonder if they are talking merged list with the Delta group? If that's the case, being quiet about it would make sense because it would only benefit about the top 30% of our group.

Originally Posted by Windshear

...it would only benefit about the top 30% of our group.

Originally Posted by Windshear

I wonder if they are talking merged list with the Delta group? If that's the case, being quiet about it would make sense because it would only benefit about the top 30% of our group.

Originally Posted by dbo861

I really doubt they're talking about merging seniority lists. There would be absolutely ZERO benefit to the Delta pilots.

Originally Posted by CRJDriver

Just ignore him, he is not too bright...



As much as I hate to agree with paxhauler85, he is right, though. A lot of people think (myself included not too long ago), that IF Mesa would go under we would get a bunch of flying, more airplanes, hire more pilots. You have to remember that Delta has other regional carriers and contractual obligations with them, which means they would be the first in line to get the flying and airplanes to fulfill their contract, and we have all seen what happens when they break the contract. As much as it sucks, we are just here as a "reserve", because we are owned by Delta. They can give us and take away as much flying as they want. Lately I have been debating if I should be optimistic and hope this place will turn around, or if I should just accept the fact that Comair is going down the drain and eventually be liquidated by Delta. I am leaning towards the latter.

I think with the closure of Concourse C and all the cutbacks in flying in CVG, not only Comair but also mainline, it is only a sign of things to come once the merger is complete. As much as I hate to speculate, but I see Cincinnati become a ''focus city" for Delta, just like Boston. I doubt they will close down Cincinnati all together, but I could see CVG close as a Delta crew domicile.

Also, I have been curious as to what they are doing in the employee parking lot in CVG. I have heard it is suppose to become an overflow parking lot for rental cars in the middle, while the outside circle will remain employee parking. True?

Originally Posted by andy171773

How do you figure only teh top 30%..i figure it would screw those guys and benefit the bottom of the list.

I'm young, and to be on Delta's list at my age

PLEASE
PLEASE
PLEASE

merge our lists.

Originally Posted by skywatch

See, I have some doubts about that. There is a thing called single carrier that prevents the MEC from "negotiating" with Delta because to maintain a seperate operating certificate, Delta is not allowed to negotiate with the MEC. Period. I don't believe that Delta would ever meet with the MEC, because they would not have put themselves in a dangerous place like that. That could cost them Comair's operating certificate and it would not happen.

At the same time, I wonder why the company was able to negotiate with the FA's for voluntary leaves but not the pilots? There are a couple logical reasons that the IBT could get a deal done and the MEC could not...but one is not because the company refused to negotiate with ALPA but was happy to talk to IBT. And how come during this whole time period when the company was supposedly ignoring these proposals, the union did not say anything to us about it? How come they put out something saying e-crappo was a more pressing issue than furloughs? All I am saying is it doesn't smell right to me. I think everyone on both sides is full of it.