Wheels falling off at RAH
08-25-2015 | 04:34 PM
#1531
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The upgrade time is based off the most recent vacancy. All the pilots hired between 2012-14 are included. Uncertainty here is an absolute reality, but if this passes (in one form or another), people will come here. We have 53 more united aircraft arriving over the next 2 years and another 10 for delta. There are only 16 Q,s left to be retired. The upgrade will drop as people come in the door. I stand by my argument, people will come for the money and the upgrade. Both should be a reality soon.
08-25-2015 | 04:35 PM
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They also have 1 CPA that is set two expire very soon, and fly equipment most likely to be retired. Nothing against those guys, they are a solid operator with great pay, but those are the reasons they have had a tougher time recruiting. What's the latest on those 145's billy???
08-25-2015 | 05:45 PM
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And as far as your 175's go, let's see you get the 145's going before we move along to that. I'm hearing very different things about your jet program...
08-25-2015 | 05:49 PM
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You have brought this up before, and I still am not sure what you're referencing. If that happened to you, that is very unfortunate, but it is something that can happen at ANY airline. I haven't seen evidence to backup what you are saying, but I'm not saying it hasn't happened. Here or anywhere else.
08-25-2015 | 06:01 PM
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And that is EXACTLY what is wrong with the regionals. For the past year we have been dealing with "regional" airline pilots selling out for flows and preferential interviews, none of which help pay off your debt, pay rent, or buy groceries for you and your family. This is the first offer (while far from perfect) that actually raises the amount of MONEY you can make as a first officer. I am happy that you get to flow to American, but that is a smoke screen that allows companies to keep wages low and get applicants in the door. The first sign that things really are changing is when wages go up, not when I have a "promised" job somewhere, someday.
And as far as your 175's go, let's see you get the 145's going before we move along to that. I'm hearing very different things about your jet program...
And as far as your 175's go, let's see you get the 145's going before we move along to that. I'm hearing very different things about your jet program...
08-25-2015 | 06:05 PM
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And that is EXACTLY what is wrong with the regionals. For the past year we have been dealing with "regional" airline pilots selling out for flows and preferential interviews, none of which help pay off your debt, pay rent, or buy groceries for you and your family. This is the first offer (while far from perfect) that actually raises the amount of MONEY you can make as a first officer. I am happy that you get to flow to American, but that is a smoke screen that allows companies to keep wages low and get applicants in the door. The first sign that things really are changing is when wages go up, not when I have a "promised" job somewhere, someday.
And as far as your 175's go, let's see you get the 145's going before we move along to that. I'm hearing very different things about your jet program...
And as far as your 175's go, let's see you get the 145's going before we move along to that. I'm hearing very different things about your jet program...
Don't know where your getting our 145 info but it's coming along nicely and new hire classes are full!!
08-25-2015 | 06:18 PM
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But didn't the pilots that signed up for republic do the same thing???? Nice new jets everyone!!!! Come fly them for bull crap rates and a crappy contract! Fast upgrades!!!! Only till things slowed down was when everyone starting to cry. You guys are your own worst enemies right???? It's the same crap different story!! Every regional. Your carrot is rotten.
Don't know where your getting our 145 info but it's coming along nicely and new hire classes are full!!
Don't know where your getting our 145 info but it's coming along nicely and new hire classes are full!!
Also, my sources are numerous PDT captain friends, all of whom say the same thing. PDT is having a hard time transitioning from an all turbo prop airline to jets, and that the entire program manual was shot down by the FAA.
08-25-2015 | 06:33 PM
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That happened at every regional that took a CRJ, ERJ or ejet in the last decade, RAH is far from the only guilty party. It also happened at a time when the market was flush with pilots and not enough jobs. My point is the same thing happened with your flow, but in a time when the market has reversed! Everyone should be looking at 40+ dollars an hour, but the flow carrot kept the wages down.
Also, my sources are numerous PDT captain friends, all of whom say the same thing. PDT is having a hard time transitioning from an all turbo prop airline to jets, and that the entire program manual was shot down by the FAA.
Also, my sources are numerous PDT captain friends, all of whom say the same thing. PDT is having a hard time transitioning from an all turbo prop airline to jets, and that the entire program manual was shot down by the FAA.
08-25-2015 | 06:45 PM
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Bad contacts???? Light years ahead of republic!!! Republic work rules are worse then PDT from the early 90's.
As for pdt's 145's no manual was shot down and most instructors are typed and ready to do.
We get pilots and AAG said we'll get the planes.
08-25-2015 | 06:46 PM
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As per a union email from our Executve Board about a minute ago, the LBFO will NOT be sent out to the pilots for a vote. The only way it will be sent to a vote is if the IBT General Paresident overrides this decision. Yet another salvo has been fired. What will BB and company do next? Should be an interesting end of the week. I'll save firstclass and others the effort and say the word bankruptcy, but I don't believe it's the case. Enjoy the show everyone...
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