Wheels falling off at RAH
#1541
Pilot
Joined: May 2015
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PDT contract is still not as great as you make it seem and RAH contract, if passed (not by far good enough but better than current one), would be better than yours.
#1544
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2011
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From: DHC-8 100/300
It actually is and no, yours wouldn't be unless all you care about are rates that are paid for by having crap benefits in the rest of your book.
#1545
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2015
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You have brought this up before, and I still am not sure what you're referencing. If that happened to you, that is very unfortunate, but it is something that can happen at ANY airline. I haven't seen evidence to backup what you are saying, but I'm not saying it hasn't happened. Here or anywhere else.
#1547
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2013
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The upgrade time is based off the most recent vacancy. All the pilots hired between 2012-14 are included. Uncertainty here is an absolute reality, but if this passes (in one form or another), people will come here. We have 53 more united aircraft arriving over the next 2 years and another 10 for delta. There are only 16 Q,s left to be retired. The upgrade will drop as people come in the door. I stand by my argument, people will come for the money and the upgrade. Both should be a reality soon.
#1548
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Joined: Jun 2015
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Every member of the Teamsters Airline Division should pay close attention to what Republic's Management is trying to do to the Republic pilot group. Management is attempting to circumvent the bargaining process, and directly send a “contract” to the pilot group for a vote. They are twisting the language of Article XII, Section 1 of the IBT Constitution in order to do this.
Article XII
STRIKES, LOCKOUTS, WAGE SCALES, DISPUTES OVER JURISDICTION
Strike Action by Local Unions
Section 1(a). When any difficulty or dispute arises between the members of any Local Union and their employers, it shall be the duty of the officers of such Local Union to use every possible means of achieving a settlement or resolution of the difficulty or dispute through the processes of collective bargaining.
(b). Agreements shall either be accepted by a majority vote of those members involved in negotiations and voting, or a majority of such members shall direct further negotiations before a final vote on the employer's offer is taken, as directed by the Local Union Executive Board. During negotiations, the Local Union Executive Board may order a secret ballot strike vote to be taken and when, in the judgment of the Local Union Executive Board, an employer has made a final offer of settlement, such offer must be submitted to the involved membership for a secret ballot vote as hereinafter provided;
(1) If at least one half of the members eligible to vote cast valid ballots, then a cumulative majority of those voting in favor of the final offer shall result in acceptance of such offer; and a cumulative majority of those voting against acceptance of the final offer shall authorize a strike without any additional vote being necessary for such strike authorization. In the event of a tie vote on either a motion to accept a final offer or to strike, the Local Union Executive Board shall conduct a second vote. If the result of the second vote is a tie, the Local Union Executive Board shall have the discretion to either accept the final offer or reject the final offer and authorize a strike at such time as it determines.
The company is ignoring various parts of this section. The Local Executive Board did not decide this was a “final offer of settlement,” nor is the company willing to except a strike as the result of a “cumulative majority of those voting against acceptance.” This section of the IBT constitution was not intended for those members who fall under the jurisdiction of the RLA. The company is trying to use only the first half of this paragraph to force a vote.
If Republic management is successful in circumventing the Local’s Executive Board and Negotiating Committee this will set a disastrous precedent for all Airline Division IBT members. What will happen to the negotiating process currently underway at Allegiant or GoJets or any other pilot group? All members need to pay close attention to this and voice their concerns with the IBT Airline Division.
Call 202-624-6848 or 800-635-3961 and let the ALD know how important it is to not let management circumvent the process.
Article XII
STRIKES, LOCKOUTS, WAGE SCALES, DISPUTES OVER JURISDICTION
Strike Action by Local Unions
Section 1(a). When any difficulty or dispute arises between the members of any Local Union and their employers, it shall be the duty of the officers of such Local Union to use every possible means of achieving a settlement or resolution of the difficulty or dispute through the processes of collective bargaining.
(b). Agreements shall either be accepted by a majority vote of those members involved in negotiations and voting, or a majority of such members shall direct further negotiations before a final vote on the employer's offer is taken, as directed by the Local Union Executive Board. During negotiations, the Local Union Executive Board may order a secret ballot strike vote to be taken and when, in the judgment of the Local Union Executive Board, an employer has made a final offer of settlement, such offer must be submitted to the involved membership for a secret ballot vote as hereinafter provided;
(1) If at least one half of the members eligible to vote cast valid ballots, then a cumulative majority of those voting in favor of the final offer shall result in acceptance of such offer; and a cumulative majority of those voting against acceptance of the final offer shall authorize a strike without any additional vote being necessary for such strike authorization. In the event of a tie vote on either a motion to accept a final offer or to strike, the Local Union Executive Board shall conduct a second vote. If the result of the second vote is a tie, the Local Union Executive Board shall have the discretion to either accept the final offer or reject the final offer and authorize a strike at such time as it determines.
The company is ignoring various parts of this section. The Local Executive Board did not decide this was a “final offer of settlement,” nor is the company willing to except a strike as the result of a “cumulative majority of those voting against acceptance.” This section of the IBT constitution was not intended for those members who fall under the jurisdiction of the RLA. The company is trying to use only the first half of this paragraph to force a vote.
If Republic management is successful in circumventing the Local’s Executive Board and Negotiating Committee this will set a disastrous precedent for all Airline Division IBT members. What will happen to the negotiating process currently underway at Allegiant or GoJets or any other pilot group? All members need to pay close attention to this and voice their concerns with the IBT Airline Division.
Call 202-624-6848 or 800-635-3961 and let the ALD know how important it is to not let management circumvent the process.
#1549
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2014
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The ball's in the Rev's court. Does he file or does he let the company wilt on the vine--- ie: be de-listed and traded on OTC as a pink sheet or does he allow or force operators with deep pockets with labor-strategic, financial and operational stakes to inject liquidity ? Those Legacies with serious feed arrangements with RJET aren't really prepared for long disruptions. RJET: 2.12 Down 1.23(36.72%) 4:00PM EDT
After Hours : 2.06 Down 0.06 (2.83%) 7:58PM EDT
After Hours : 2.06 Down 0.06 (2.83%) 7:58PM EDT
Last edited by deepwater; 08-26-2015 at 06:13 PM.
#1550
Don't give Bedford that much credit. Seabury Group LLC has it figured out and Bedford is the puppet. Bedford is a terrible CEO and has run RAH into the ground with no hope of repair without outside "help". If he doesn't get the boot after this whole charade is over I'd be surprised.
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