Originally Posted by pilotwithnoname

This is true. Every week I look forward to the "new hires" post on our company website. I haven't seen more than 2 FO new hires on that form in quite sometime. And that's if they show up at INDOC, not even make it through training. I would assume it's more like 0-10 per month make it to the line.

Also to everyone posting replies on the "massive growth" comment above: in pretty sure I read that as "RAH did not sign crappy contracts like other regionals did during their massive growth." which is very true. Look, our contract sucks, no one will argue that fact. But RAH and XJET are the only 2 pilot groups that hasn't voted yes to a garbage contract that has hurt our group. Can others say the same?

I honestly hope that people stop to think about the comments they make on here about "my regional is great, super fast upgrade, cancelation pay, and yours sucks!" because let's face it..they all suck. Every. Single. One. So let's not perpetuate a race to the absolute bottom, and try and change this regional airline image of crap pay and crap contracts and crap QOL into something that is fulfilling for every pilot working at a regional. And if management doesn't want to pay for it, that's totally fine, but I'm not voting 'yes', and this place is going to shut down and that's perfectly fine with me.

Originally Posted by Cruz5350

There was like 20 in the new hire class last month my friend is in it.

Originally Posted by CBreezy

TSA and Compass haven't taken taken concessions and have significantly better contracts than RAH. In fact, Compass just signed a contract improvement. TSA signed a good contract in 2011 and is scheduled to open negotiations this summer. Even GoJet has language resembling cancelation pay and gives hotel rooms in base to commuters. The language improvement with commuters has come in the last year.

Hulas doesn't sign unprofitable contracts. All the growth at TSH makes them money.

Originally Posted by pilotwithnoname

I don't believe even half of them will make it through training. Like I said, I see 2 a week max on the company site.

Right, which kinda validates my point. They got offered 'good' contracts. If we are offered a good one, we will sign it. We won't sign any piece of crap that comes to us, which you must admit lots of regionals have done. Our management has been trying to pass us a turd for a while. At least wee haven't caved.

Originally Posted by LeadFoot

What do you mean by 'not even half will make it through training'? Is training over there that hard for those guys or are they just not showing up for class?

Originally Posted by CBreezy

TSA and Compass haven't taken taken concessions and have significantly better contracts than RAH. In fact, Compass just signed a contract improvement. TSA signed a good contract in 2011 and is scheduled to open negotiations this summer. Even GoJet has language resembling cancelation pay and gives hotel rooms in base to commuters. The language improvement with commuters has come in the last year.

Hulas doesn't sign unprofitable contracts. All the growth at TSH makes them money.

Originally Posted by pilotwithnoname

Right, which kinda validates my point. They got offered 'good' contracts.

Originally Posted by fucius

So what you're saying is "my substandard regional contract is better than yours!" Well, congratulations on perpetuating the continued disrespect, and substandard compensation packages that are uncommon in any other PROFESSION. The "compensation" that has been offered even under these new contracts are WHOLLY unacceptable, and inappropriate. Quick upgrades, and growth are not the concern of the employee, or a substitute for acceptable monetary compensation, and/or an acceptable QOL. As we/you continue to operate into and out of major airports, in now legacy level airliners, with mainline paint, and passengers, just consider that our total compensation is equal to less than 50% of the majors, and less than 70% of most LCC's.

We have to refuse the idea that we are inexperienced, time building, green pilots flying entry level aircraft on discretionary routes. At some point we have to define what we are worth, and DEMAND it. They definitely aren't going to give it to us without a fight! The time is NOW!