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Old 10-04-2014 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Loon
Under our current cba,.no you will not be bumped from ewr.
Well that's great to hear. Thank you
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Old 10-04-2014 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXSAAB
Many FOs at RAH are stuck at 36.62, so it would make sense for the IBT to push a LOA. Or maybe BB just offers 20K bonuses for new hires.
Then there is no reason for the company to pursue a new contract. The current contract has been amendable for 7 years.

No LOA, who does that benefit? The company and new hires. Nothing in it for existing employees. Even you can see 7 years is ridiculous right?
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Old 10-04-2014 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
Then there is no reason for the company to pursue a new contract. The current contract has been amendable for 7 years.

No LOA, who does that benefit? The company and new hires. Nothing in it for existing employees. Even you can see 7 years is ridiculous right?
Bedford will only offer more when he is forced to. When he was at Business Express, he offered up crap also and once a CBA was signed and done, he was asked "what would you have done if the TA was rejected?" His response was, "we would have offered you more money."
Bedford tried instituting an FO pay scale a few years ago only to be shot down by the union. He figured that since there has been a 50% turn over he might try it again. This is not negotiating in good faith. I hope you all eventually get released, it would be great to see him lose control and the BOD give him what he deserves.
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Old 10-04-2014 | 06:37 AM
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A little off topic and I apologize, however what's the average amount of credit time Shuttle America pilots are getting per month on reserve and line holding.

I have been debating between 2 different airlines, both of which I have upcoming classes for and I cant figure out what to do. I am trying to get as much info as possible. Thank you
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Old 10-04-2014 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Loon
I voted yes because I viewed the ta as a springboard for better things to come(i.e. a solid ta in three years, or so).
Rubbish TA to remain so for the long term thrown at us by the ALD. What an insult. It's good to see our own NC actually making moves to hold the companies feet to the fire. BB has publically stated the FO rate needs to improve. Either way the company respond to this I see as a successful move by our team. It will be voted on by the pilot group -- or it will allow our NC to continue to develop the story that this company is not interested in negotiating (as if it's not painfully obvious already).
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Old 10-04-2014 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by unclenobby
Rubbish TA to remain so for the long term thrown at us by the ALD. What an insult. It's good to see our own NC actually making moves to hold the companies feet to the fire. BB has publically stated the FO rate needs to improve. Either way the company respond to this I see as a successful move by our team. It will be voted on by the pilot group -- or it will allow our NC to continue to develop the story that this company is not interested in negotiating (as if it's not painfully obvious already).
The old chess game, eh? What if the LOA passes though? We lose!
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Old 10-04-2014 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Loon
The old chess game, eh? What if the LOA passes though? We lose!
My exact opinion on the last TA - but you know what they say about opinions.............
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Old 10-04-2014 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Loon
make sense? You have myopia. This is a BS move and must be shot down.

You should educate yourself before formulating an opinion. This potential loa is actually exactly what FOs need. It will also not solve staffing issues. Wait for the details before going crazy over it.
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Old 10-04-2014 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
You should educate yourself before formulating an opinion. This potential loa is actually exactly what FOs need. It will also not solve staffing issues. Wait for the details before going crazy over it.
Wouldn't it be easier to just hammer out a contract real quick? I mean its only been seven years. At some point the pilots are going to be allowed to strike and then your going to get your contract or just close down.
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Old 10-04-2014 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
Wouldn't it be easier to just hammer out a contract real quick? I mean its only been seven years. At some point the pilots are going to be allowed to strike and then your going to get your contract or just close down.

Unfortunately no. The company wont even meet with the nc at the moment. Nothing the union can do to fix that. The nmb will never authorize a strike, which is why the company wont play ball. As far as closing down, thats a dream world. There will always be pilots looking for work, at least in the short term. Management is parking almost 70 planes in 2 years to maintain staffing. They dont see a new contract as a solution. Until they do, nothing will change.
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