Its not even coming in second. Cancer comes in second, maybe 3/4/5/6 depending on where you get your inflated numbers. I haven't normalized anything, I don't have that power. The government seems to have all that power due to people like you ceding any and all of your remaining freedom of choice.

If you want to get the vaccine, I 100% support it (see, belief in personal choice works both ways). It has some modicum of effectiveness but it is not the holy water you believe it is. Once you give up your freedom, you don't get it back....

I don't support forcing a doctor to prescribe anything. If you want to "doctor shop" until you find one who will prescribe Ivermectin for covid, go ahead - it's their license.

If you can find a doctor to prescribe it, go ahead. Don’t get angry if a doctor says no though, since they may not want the liability.

Just because I want a treatment doesn’t mean a physician will go along with it. You may have to shop around.

So just like other places did at the height of the pandemic, Alabama can construct temporary facilities. We don’t need to constrain everyone’s liberty or freedom to take care of a problem in one area.


You want to force people to put something in their body against their will. And you are using these justifications you listed. But the many of those things can be said for people who don’t exercise, have a bad diet, smoke, drink, drugs, gamble, porn, etc. Do you want to force a specific lifestyle for them as well so that they don’t infect you with whatever disease they may have, or clog up the healthcare facilities, or raise your insurance premiums and taxes, to take care of them?

We have to realize that we live in a country that is based on freedom and liberty. That means that there will always be people who will do things that are not the best thing to do and that will cost society in some way. Do we really want to head down that path and risk what we have in this country over forcing people to do inject themselves with something against their will when we don’t even force anyone about a myriad of other bad behaviors? We already have problems starting to arise from authoritarianism, I don’t think we want to exacerbate it more, especially over this vaccine. We are taking about a disease that kills the old (70+) and people with certain comorbidities (that most got from bad health habits). That for the vast majority, it will not get them sick. If this truly was as bad as the media and politicians make it seem, everyone would be clamoring for the vaccine.


This has nothing to do with smarts. A doctor is educated in his field just as we are in ours. That doesn’t make one smarter than the other. But if you look for it, there are reputable doctors from prestigious schools that don’t agree with many things coming from the policy maker doctors in the government.

With that said, I know your response was sarcasm to make the point that you can’t believe anything you read online. I just wanted to add your comparison about natural immunity to cancer, to point out the flawed analogy in your sarcastic remark, not that I was disagreeing to it in whole.

Your rights end where mine begin. And right now the unvaccinated folks exercising their freedom is impinging on my rights to live my life without daily hassles, free travel and the assurance of available hospital resources if I or my family need them. I give zero f’s about your opinions to the contrary, based on some lady you watched on YouTube or fringe “news” sources peddling conspiracies for profit. And that’s coming from a libertarian-leaning conservative who hasn’t spent a moment in fear of Covid.


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I and many take issue with it! You don’t need the hospital if your a drug addict, person driving drunk or criminal, after all that’s a personal choice. I find it scary you advocate turning people away who had concerns about getting a vaccine because of their health issues or pregnancy status if they later got sick. Using your metric many of the people in the hospitals should be turned away after all many ailments are preventable with good eating habits, exercise, not smoking, no drug use and not being a criminal.

Since all of you fascists are emphatically declaring this a moral issue by stating that the unvaccinated could "kill you" or others, your employer is de facto immoral, reckless, and deadly by not mandating the vaccine to protect you and their other employees.

If you had actual moral compasses or backbones, you would have already submitted your resignation letter in a disgusted response to your immoral employer's vaccine mandate inaction and found another job. There are several airlines that require vaccinations in this situation which would be a better fit for your ideologies concerning informed medical consent in the USA.

Until you do tender your resignations, either your greed surpasses your morals or you are liars/psychopaths/sociopaths and you can keep typing until the cows come home since you have no credibility. I'd bet three year's worth of well-stacked pancakes that none of you resigns in protest to your employer's despicable lack of action. (feel free to insert any of the other descriptors you have used like disgusting, conspiratorial, selfish, etc)

Either way, I wouldn't be able to live with myself in your current situation since your morals are easily purchased by the pay and benefits provided by your employer. Happy job hunting, DR K

Such strong words! I also don't think you understand what being a libertarian is because that is not how your freedoms work. I think what you are looking for is "authoritarianism". Now if you are "libertarian minded", I agree with you that your right to freedom shouldn't be interrupted, HOWEVER, you need not be looking at your fellow citizens but your own government. Although they would love for you to believe that this is all the unvaccinated's fault, your government is the organization that has restricted your travel and brought hassle to daily life. Your language sounds pretty fearful.

This is for your education:

Libertarian

"Libertarianism is a political philosophy and movement that upholds liberty as a core principle. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and political freedom, emphasizing free association, freedom of choice, individualism and voluntary association."

Authoritarian

"Favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom."

Some famous authoritarians in history:
- Bashar Al-Assad
- Kim Jong-Un
- Joseph Stalin
- Fidel Castro
- Saddam Hussein

Now remind me, which one of these is you?

It's all hot air - the employer is gravely immoral and dangerous by not mandating vaccinations. Yet somehow, the pay scale and promises of the PSPP make that immorality acceptable to these medical fascists. That's why none of them have resigned in protest, as you would expect from someone with such strongly held beliefs. They are comfortable working for an employer that values profits more than life by not requiring the vaccine. You'll never have a logical debate with someone whose morality is for sale, so quit wasting your time. DR K

You are right, Dr K. For the sake of our country and our fellow citizens, I can't help but try.