Exactly my point. So you're saying HNL needs three to fly your schedules, plus 1 backup. ANC needs 2+1. So if the MX spare bounces back and forth, thats 6 737 airframes between the two domiciles. The LRD numbers are down, so whether they keep a 7th there is a big question mark.

you obviously don't know much about the Aloha operation and how much flying they do. They can barely fly the current schedule with 4 airplanes. If anything, combining the fleets will allow them to move a 5th aircraft to HNL, not reduce the the fleet.

how do you "bounce " a spare airplane back and forth? the whole point of a spare is that it is in place in the base you need it.

They've kept their MX spare in LRD for years now, so I guess that's how. Business as usual around NAC, I'm afraid.

That might work for NAC because they don't fly much. But at Aloha what are you going to do at 0300 when running 3 lines and a plane breaks? Call ANC and tell them to fly the spare down so they can finish the line?

I don’t know where you get the idea that the ANC birds are any less utilized than the HNL fleet. They fly around the clock too. If they’re true to form, they’ll just give all the freight to the competition. Everts built their ANC base on flying that NAC gave away. They’re chartering two Lynden flights today.

I’m not really sure why we’re arguing over minor details, though. When the list is integrated, any consolidation is bad for both groups. It won’t be a win for HNL guys if ANC loses lift or vice versa. We’re negotiating for a joint CBA. We can’t afford to view ourselves as separate groups any longer, and despite what you may have heard, very few among our group actually have anything against the HNL group. I personally look forward to flying with you guys and gals, and I think you’ll like flying with our group too.

I don't work at AQ so don't have a dog in the fight but I have a few friends that do.
I agree it doesn't serve you well to act as separate groups, but from what my friends say, that is exactly what some of your group is doing. Like trying to staple all the Aloha guys to the bottom of a new list. Not exactly the "lets work together attitude". and no arbitrator has ever agreed to a merge like that. or guys in ANC saying stuff about the AQ guys in 767 training when they were up there instead of welcoming them.

As I said, very few have a problem. Tell your friends that the individual who made those comments does not speak for all of us, and our frustration with the issues we're having should be channeled towards management, not at each other.

As for the SLI, thats information that I'm not privy to, nor should the AAC pilot group be. However, I trust the guys who were on that committee enough to know that they would not take a position like that. The general consensus has always been that any joint list should be something fair that wouldn't create the bad blood we see at other merged airlines. Now, if some knucklehead made a comment to that effect in a crew room somewhere, I certainly haven't heard it, and I'd tell them they were an idiot if they did. It's not fair to take a few comments made by one or two people and apply it to a whole group, and it certainly isnt helpful to our shared goal of getting this contract done.

check your PM

Hey guys! Seems like a lot has changed at NAC in the last few years. Curious what the schedule is like these days? Are new-hires still doing TX rotations? Stuck in MIA? ANC rsv?

Thanks!

Hey, is BB leaving? I only ask because there was a Chief Pilot position open on the Orange site recently. Hope not, he's a really good guy.