Do you not read the weekly "Flying Operations" publications? They have stated many times that there were over 300 items that they were going to go back over after they achieved SOC. Many of those items were things they liked that NWA had. Like I have said before, give em a chance to put their heads up to make sure the boat is going in the correct direction before delving in to more of these tasks. Failing to do so could result in more issues being created rather than fixed.

And the MEC approved a resolution seeking the Negotiating Committee engage the company on this item. That means that your union agrees with you.

Actually Carl, there's a new preface that has all kinds of previously unavailable stuff on it. You can get it when the flt plan is available - I do not remember the code to get it.. Also, the Gates -at least DTW - prints out 2 of everything. For me, its too much ppwk. And, I think you'll get very little arguement from DALS folks that the int'l flt plan is oddly formatted.

I look forward to a new best of everything system. The bulletins and procedural changes are beginning to leave my pea brain in the dust. I know it isnt what you folks had to go thru- with training by memo- but my brain is smaller or there is just less room in it.

Just a complete side note here - commuted up to DTW the other day in the back row of a -9. No kidding, when we touched down, I didnt know it - until the reversers went out - its pretty loud back there. I just wonder if I had a NewK sighting.

DING DING DING DING

Reality gave us a choice: "on time and pay the crew a couple bucks" ~OR~ "late, waiting on ramp congestion." It selected "save a couple of bucks and on time."

All that was accomplished was to remove the effect of one department entering in "late completion of checklists" and another department having to answer "no we weren't." Now management meetings have been shortened by 3 minutes on average and the survey says the coffee tastes better.

I really don't care, if they pay me to read the checklist while balancing a Biscoff on my nose and clapping ... OK. They own the jet.

Command bug set to max speed before Captain gets angry, back it off a knot to keep the peace ... works on the 88 too.

The Boeing jets actually have effective wings and high lift devices removing the need for the Douglas work around to gain sufficient lift.

We weren't trying to fly French airplanes. We ended up with a couple once, but we sold them, kept the pilots and tried to forget the nightmare of AirBi product support.

TLAR works pretty well, based on experience. (no offense to any Air Force pilots, "yes Sir, we really do need to calculate crosswind component and brief it an hour before the landing, then debrief, write an opinion piece for the Chief Line Check Airman and study the appendix to Vol II, it really IS great you went to "the" Academy and some how work that into every briefing, twice")

Jeesh, I need to get off the web board before I get myself into trouble here.

If the old AWABS worked so fantastic, why did we need to change to pushing without AWABS? The answer is obvious. The old AWABS didn't work. It was killing on time performance BEFORE employee integration. That's why management felt like they needed to make this change after integration. It's really quite simple...if the old AWABS worked "fantastic", we would still be using it.

I couldn't disagree more. AWABS is an embarrassing easter egg hunt for information. Totally scattered and disorganized. Topping it all off by manually entering V speeds even though the FMC is totally capable of doing it automatically. MGL was perfectly organized, gave you only the information that you needed and none of what you don't, and was so easy that crews could input all data quickly and safely while taxiing out. This is because we allowed the FMC software to work the way it was designed.

Carl

Me too brother...me too!

It could have been. I hear he is THE man!

Carl

Too late. But that was damn funny!

Carl

I've always been amazed with both sides when we get into these discussions. In general, a pilot will be the LAST guy to say, "That's the way it's always been done, leave it alone". Until you start talking about their "stuff", then you get "it ain't broke, leave it alone".

AWABS is an easter egg hunt. FPS (just like MGL and World Flight) is like an old house in serious need of paint. But, we appear to have money, lets get siding AND redo the bath and kitchen while we're at it.

fNWA guys ain't the enemy, we just want to push the easy button again...........and we want to share the easy button.

Ferd