Again, I would ask you to point to anything from DPA that talks about SLI dissatisfaction being part of the "root" of why the organization was started. I have found nothing of the sort. Their web site is full of reasons as to why they think DPA would be a better choice for our pilot group. Dissatisfaction with the SLI is not one of them.

As for the graffiti... I'll take your word for it. (Although I have not seen it.) But even so, I don't see how you make the connection that it is a "root" issue with DPA. Again, the AJC article we are discussing could easily leave the reader with that impression. I think this is inaccurate reporting and misleading.

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I'll have an open mind that SLI has nothing to do with DPA if you have an open mind that it might. Hows that.

The DPA MEC & officers would be acting with the DAL pilot's interests in mind. Their focus would be more "local" instead of operating through a national structure that is detached from the line pilot. (Lavish parties, new cars, $500k a year salaries, etc) They wouldn't have to confer with our regionals before making a scope decision. We would have the leeway to chart our own course, instead of sharing representation with other groups with conflicting interests.

To ALPA....maybe, maybe not. Yes, there would be "overhead" expenses, for professional negotiators, lawyers, etc. but nothing near $23 million. The possibility exists to get great services at reduced dues, since we wouldn't be subsidizing a bloated Natl structure or subsidizing other airlines.

Go to the DPA web site & get informed. www.delta-pilots.org There's a lot of info there, that will give you an idea of their intentions. E-mail them any questions that you have & then make up your mind. If you're happy with what you have now, stay with it.

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If we were going to have an effective union that had a voice on the scale of ALPA, we would need to have at least a 1.95% due rate.

You will need to create your own MCF as well.

23 million to run an organization for how many pilots. You are dreaming, it costs more than that to run the pilots union at UPS. If you want to do this you better come up with some realistic numbers. The IPA is currently at 2.25% Dues which may go higher as we enter negotiations.

757UPS that has been my position for a long time.

How interesting... Thanks for sharing.

I'm no economist, but it seems to me that economies of scale would dictate that a smaller union would need to get more dues for an equivalent level of service. This is a problem if you're trying to market such a union. I guess you just slash your introductory price by 50% and hope you get customers.

You do need to look at the contract comparison available on this site to see what can be accomplished with the higher dues and tighter control.
UPS to Dal should give you a good idea.

The MCF is what's causing a lot of the problems at ALPA National.
It is a horrible idea and it should be refunded to the pilots immediately.

That money is nothing but "golden handcuffs".
It makes ALPA afraid of any confrontations with management because they are afraid of losing it in a lawsuit. It paralyzes any progress toward resolving the conflict of interest at ALPA National because they are afraid of losing the MCF in a DFR lawsuit.
Plus the fact that they will NEVER spend that money. Too many high paid pencil pushers and paper shufflers in Herndon depend on the care and feeding of that fund for their livelihoods. If the bankruptcies of every major carrier and the loss of all our pensions was not a "major contingency" then those words have no meaning.