At least 4 and I think 6 JB pilots in 2 new-hire classes at DAL in June, including me.

It's a 6K bonus.

Would $6k really keep someone from going to DAL or UAL? Jetblue's best bet would be to hire people that typically wouldn't meet the quals of those companies like TPIC (ie hire F/O's).

Well that's the quandary. Lower standards, or create an environment that motivates the quality you want to apply and stay.

I hope that with new leadership and a quality MEC, you'll see the latter. And I think you will in time, but if not soon, I don't think JB will survive.

From a previous thread, I understood the $6k for new hires at the one year point was a salary correction. The first year pay scale stayed the same when the 13% raise went into effect for everyone else, so I was told, and it was not intended to be an incentive or bonus.

It was called a "retention bonus," and yes, at $500/ month, it approximates the 13% pay raise that 2-12+ year pilots got.

2 year+ pilots did not receive a 13% unless they fly 78 hours or LESS Typical Jetblue math. Publish data, reference later and claim it as fact.

Pay raise hour by hour:

78 hours: 13.0%
79 hours: 12.3%
80 hours: 11.6%
81 hours: 10.9%
82 hours: 10.3%
83 hours: 9.7%
84 hours: 9.1%
85 hours: 8.5%
86 hours: 8.0%
87 hours: 7.4%
88 hours: 6.9%
89 hours: 6.4%
90 hours: 5.9%
91 hours: 5.5%
92 hours: 5.0%
93 hours: 4.6%
94 hours: 4.1%
95 hours: 3.7%
96 hours: 3.3%
97 hours: 2.9%
98 hours: 2.5%
99 hours: 2.2%
100 hours: 1.8%
101 hours: 1.4%
102 hours: 1.1%
103 hours: 0.8%
104 hours: 0.4%
105 hours: 0.1%

Summary: At 84 hours your increase is half what it should be. If you credit around 90 hours typically you're keeping pace with inflation (and that's all you're doing).

Anything after 95 hours and it's a pay decrease wrt COLA. Incorporate inflation and the new DH rule (incl. all of the 117 deadheads), and your break even is at 91 hours give or take. Anything after that is a dead loss.

If you're leaving JB to go to DAL, AA or UAL. Adios! Buenas suerte! Peace in the Middle East!

So what you are saying is that the base raise was increased by 13% to be within 1% of Delta's base rate by 2016 less dues. O but wait we will be paying dues by then since we voted in our own paycut in April. I hope history shows that we made the right choice.

Training has significantly slowed, and JBU is catching up. IOE is the current bottleneck.