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07-29-2015, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by skypilot35
I think our MOU states the report has to be filed within 24 hours from the time the duty period ends in which the event occurred...I might be wrong on this but I have filed an ASAP and when we spoke to the ASAP rep, this is what I was told.
I think there are 5 criteria which consists of criminal activity, substance abuse, controlled substances, alcohol, or intentional falsification, aka the Big 5. I assume this is what you were referring to.
I think there are 5 criteria which consists of criminal activity, substance abuse, controlled substances, alcohol, or intentional falsification, aka the Big 5. I assume this is what you were referring to.
Yeah, you are right. Those are the five. But the mou says that it's 24 hours from the occurrence or from when the pilot was made aware of the occurrence and wasn't reasonably expected to know of it.
Originally Posted by comrcap
Comair has had several 709 ride events...they all ended in revocation.
Ok, I'll take your word for it. I just don't understand that if the ASAP was accepted, how it could lead to a 709 ride, let alone revocation.
07-29-2015, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Ok, I'll take your word for it. I just don't understand that if the ASAP was accepted, how it could lead to a 709 ride.
07-29-2015, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
What don't you understand about it?
How being admitted into ASAP can lead to a 709 and or revocation.
07-29-2015, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
How being admitted into ASAP can lead to a 709 and or revocation.
07-29-2015, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
ASAP does not protect someone from a 709. It never has, it never will. 709s are the result of any investigation where there is a question about pilot competence(including ASAP), as in there was nothing wrong with the plane and the pilot did something that was outside of PTS standards, leading to whatever occurrence is being investigated. Read what I posted on the previous page, it explains the process. A 709 is not a punishment or enforcement, which is why it's not covered. If ultimately a pilot lost a cert as the result of a 709, it's because they were not able to perform at the level the certificate requires.
Ok, I understand what you are saying now. So I take it that filing an ASRS also doesn't preclude a 709 ride?
07-29-2015, 10:00 PM
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24 hours from end of duty or the pilot being aware, of course you only may become aware of it by being told there's a FAA investigation lol
07-30-2015, 12:07 PM
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Quick question for y'all. My buddy just passed his line check on the CRJ7 but is curious about the 200, and 900. Will he have to do a full trip with a check airman on the 2 and 9 or something else? I figured I could ask someone on here and get a quicker response than him sending an email out late in the afternoon. Thanks
07-30-2015, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jarretk
Quick question for y'all. My buddy just passed his line check on the CRJ7 but is curious about the 200, and 900. Will he have to do a full trip with a check airman on the 2 and 9 or something else? I figured I could ask someone on here and get a quicker response than him sending an email out late in the afternoon. Thanks
07-30-2015, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Drums4life
Yes an IOE trip for all variants. I did my 700/900 on the same 2-day trip.
07-31-2015, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jarretk
Quick question for y'all. My buddy just passed his line check on the CRJ7 but is curious about the 200, and 900. Will he have to do a full trip with a check airman on the 2 and 9 or something else? I figured I could ask someone on here and get a quicker response than him sending an email out late in the afternoon. Thanks
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