Originally Posted by Flip69

The company never furloughed because they had turboprops in the way and it would have created a nightmare in training logistics. Those turboprops will be gone soon and when the 200s start coming off contract and the EMB 175 flying continues to go elsewhere, the company will do what it needs to do. The grand plan is to shrink to profitability and become a smaller and leaner airline. How small is the question we all have to wait and see. If I was a new hire at the bottom and had a chance to get out, I'd be gone in a heartbeat.

Originally Posted by spaaks

Why wouldn't Skywest just stay the same size or grow a little bit cherry picking the good xjt crj contracts and shrink xjt?

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

Because that's 2D checkers and the game is 4D chess......

Originally Posted by CloudShredder

Tell us what the 4D game play is then.

Originally Posted by grasshoppr

This would be great news for many. Not doubting you but would you care to share your math and logic?

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

Sorry FanBoy,
I will move right along just as soon as I am sure it is the right time and to the right place. Since my situation is pretty decent, it will have to be a top tier move, Spirit ain't gonna cut it for me. The majors have been hiring more than a few for what, a year? Like I said this is 4 D chess not checkers. SKYW F/Os are leaving daily for any number of quick/CQFO slots, when the rats flee the ship, you gotta ask, why? When I listen to the F/Os it becomes clear, they don't have any plans, it's jump at the first, different thing that comes along, and to operate in thes shark infested waters, rudderless is foolhardy. If my musings cause one guy to think about what he is gonna do with some planning, it's worth it. I don't really have a dog in this pit, it's the guys like WRX who need the next layer of airline fodder to allow them to upgrade. I have mine, have had it for awhile, and could afford to take an early retirement and live quite comfortably. Do the math....70 resignations, 70 upgrades, how many new hires????

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

Not hard to find, I will welcome your council...

Originally Posted by rickair7777

His bed-side manner isn't the greatest, but haven't heard him say anything which isn't true. SKW has some serious hurdles in the near-term. Long-term they've always done OK but who knows what they'll look like when they come out the other side of the storm.

I suggest you take charge of your dreams and make them happen. If you're a new-hire a SKW I'd look into CZ if you want to live in the west.

The best-case scenario for SKW new-hires has nothing to do with upgrade...your best hope is that the majors will start hiring RJ FO's on a wholesale basis.

Also, don't use the d-word again on APC (official warning).

Originally Posted by CloudShredder

Tell us what the 4D game play is then.

Originally Posted by StuckMike

Sure, moving up in seniority at the rate of 14% per year, most Jr capt is 37% seniority (from the bottom), 37/14 is 2.64.

So IF this rate of movement and hiring continues, which many are saying it will INCREASE, but I'm just projecting with constant movement because that's all I can really go off.

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

If you are a pilot in the airline industry, too late, you are already playing. If you need basic coaching/rule explanation at this point, well, you better start figuring it out. I am sure WRX will give you some advice. Grabbing the tiger by the tail, kicking it in the junk and then asking "how do I not get mauled" is like "fire, ready, aim" on the firing line. After 25+ years in this business, it is patently obvious that each individual has variables that create a series of complex choices not easily scriptable in a generic sense.