rcfd13

The most junior upgrade just awarded is only 99 numbers away from a December 2010 hire. There are hardly any pilot numbers between 34,000 and 39,000. At the current pace of upgrades it looks like we're 4-5 months away from 2011 hire captains.

rcfd13

There was another break Summer 2012 until about Spring 2013. I know that one well because I was moving up on reserve fast and then suddenly stalled right at the top of reserve bottom of the line holder range for about 8 months before I moved a single number again.

There are a lot of pilots hired between 01/2011 and the start of that break though so it's not going to hit that gap for a few years.

StuckMike

Been keeping spreadsheets since hired almost a year ago, and IF everything keeps marching along, the upgrad will drop to 2.7 years for early 2014 hires.

The cool thing is IF the economy takes another $#!T, SKW hasn't ever furloughed in it's 42 year history and is probably the best place to be in a recession IMHO.

grasshoppr

This would be great news for many. Not doubting you but would you care to share your math and logic?

ClickClickBoom

Once the 200's start leaving the upgrade will move past the 10 year mark, nice dream newb. SKYW didn't furlough for many reasons, most were financial.

skypilot35

You are a dream crusher man! You have any New Year's resolutions? How about don't be a douche on Fridays? All other days are good douche days, but not Friday man! Happy New Year!

ClickClickBoom

Sorry,
If the truth is disappointing, so be it. You guys are playing Forrest Gump grade checkers in a 4 D chess game. It's kinda sad, you think you grabbed the winning ticket, only to find out it was a Parking Citation. Once SKYW figures out that they can't staff all the planes they will start getting rid of the small ones(EMB), and then the most MX unprofitable ones next(200s). Ask around, SKYW has a couple of plans floating around, and one is about shrinking. But hey I hear PSA has the fast upgrade and flow, and probably will until you decide that the 10 year upgrade is taking too long, then after you jump over they will move that carrot over to the next carrier, and on and on and on. Your upgrade will possibly never happen. Just when you think you have the industry figured out, they will change the rules, just like they have for the last 30 years.....

wrxpilot

The best revenge is to live well. There is and will continue to be a lot of opportunity for most of us to move on to bigger and better things.

Clearly CCB is a very unhappy, miserable lifer that has some type of skeleton in the closet preventing him from moving on. The fact that he only finds pleasure in trashing his co-workers is very telling of why he's stuck.

I feel sorry for the guy, as I have seen firsthand how destructive such a personality can be on one's life. But when it comes down to it, it's not our problem and he's best left on the ignore list (and perhaps the no bid list if you're a SFO CRJ FO).

rickair7777

If SKW cannot replace the 200's which come off contract between 2015-2020 there will be backwards movement. If you're lucky and there's a lot of attrition it might merely be stagnation.

rickair7777

His bed-side manner isn't the greatest, but haven't heard him say anything which isn't true. SKW has some serious hurdles in the near-term. Long-term they've always done OK but who knows what they'll look like when they come out the other side of the storm.

I suggest you take charge of your dreams and make them happen. If you're a new-hire a SKW I'd look into CZ if you want to live in the west.

The best-case scenario for SKW new-hires has nothing to do with upgrade...your best hope is that the majors will start hiring RJ FO's on a wholesale basis.

Also, don't use the d-word again on APC (official warning).