Hauler can you possibly make one sensible post instead of 3??? I don't even know where to start with 3 shot gun reactions...

 

Wait a minute, you live in SLC and your vast experience is at OO??? Wtf, I know of CP position and LR60 position open in over there....skeletons?

 

How long have you been here? You still reserve?

 

What does that have to do anything? Let's just say I'm more senior than you

 

There were approximately 700 or so who did NOT vote. Of the 53% who voted yes, most were pilots who've been here a long time. Stop blaming "newbs" for something they had no knowledge or control of to begin with. Also, I don't hear anyone talking about this place being the best place since sliced bread or anything similar. You may find this shocking, but there are many jobs out there far worse than this. Nobody duct taped you and forced you to work at OO. That was your choice. It's also yours to move on to greener pastures. Your constant complaining and inaccurate bashing isn't going to change things.

 

Any yes voters with less than 10 years on property care to chime in? I would love to hear the thought process on your yes vote.

 

No, I flew other types of flying before this, including charter in Lears. What does a CP position have anything to do with my background?

 

No knowledge or control of????
Oh it just happen to slip to the ground instructors mind when telling them they need 2500tt to upgrade, so these 1000tt wonder kids won't upgrade for what? 3 years? So much for a fast upgrade but then again did they open up their efb and look at company policy? Of course not. They were flooded with kool aid, as far as the lifers yeah well who cares (I suspect you will since you'll never hold slc captain). Point is this place isn't half of what people make it out to be. Moral is at an all time low and the pilot group is divided. Believe me I'm looking for greener pastures!

 

I realize when I upgrade, I won't hold captain in SLC. That's why I will upgrade and commute to a base where I can hold it. Either that, or stay in SLC, sit around, complain like you do, and go nowhere, while fuming and stewing over things I can't control. The ones who get hired and move on aren't the ones constantly whining about how unfair things are while accusing those with go-getter attitudes of "drinking kool-aid". So sick of all the pansy talking, thumb-sucking whiners here that make every effort to drag everyone else down with their bullcrap. Misery loves company and those willing to sit around and indulge in that garbage are the ones dividing this company. It's all what you make it. No, it's not perfect. Not even close. No, not everybody thinks it's great. However, I myself find that it provides what I'm looking for at this stage of my 15 years of flying so far. I applied for this job, got hired, make more here for less "work" than anywhere else I've flown, and am getting the precious turbine time. If I find myself as pi**Ed off and disgruntled as you are, I'll go back to flying in another area of aviation.

 

Us as pilots have NEVER had more control than we do right now, and people like you saying this place is ok is not a good thing! Your content with your measly pay check, I get it...
However some of us want more for busting our butts! Instead all I see is managements salary increasing millions at a time and our weekly "stay competitive" email. Management has this pilot group bent over so far it's not even funny! Don't think so? Look at Skywest managements pay the last 5 years, it's public record. We've been had boys!!!!!!