Hard Sell
12-17-2023 | 06:18 AM
#232
On Reserve
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Well, Karl found his way to split the pilot group. Don't forget, a lot of stuff on that list is already industry standard everywhere else. They had no choice to put that in the contract, but they got cheap on the captain rates. The polling data must have shown that most people were OK with a lousy 737 + 1%.
Disappointed
Disappointed
12-17-2023 | 06:29 AM
#233
gets time off
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,512
Likes: 94
Well, Karl found his way to split the pilot group. Don't forget, a lot of stuff on that list is already industry standard everywhere else. They had no choice to put that in the contract, but they got cheap on the captain rates. The polling data must have shown that most people were OK with a lousy 737 + 1%.
Disappointed
Disappointed
12-17-2023 | 06:34 AM
#234
On Reserve
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Bingo!!!! Yup we got you industry std with concessions and call it a huge success. It’s what SWAPA does best. 737+1 isn’t career earnings and a slap in the face. But enjoy those 75 rates years 1-5. LMAO. How about 75+1 and increase those year 1-5 percentages? Nah can’t do that. I am far from not fixing those year percentages for those that are stupid enough lot think that. I think I’ve stated that several times. But keep the division. SWApA SWA LUV it.
12-17-2023 | 06:54 AM
#236
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2021
Posts: 488
Likes: 12
Absolutely true. The years 2-5 FOs trailed the curve for years.
Also, I find it funny that the same guys who have been screaming "I'M A NO" without having seen an actual TA are now berating people who are saying "I'M A YES" without having seen an actual TA.
(hint: neither is a smart way to approach this)
You guys are a hoot. Bring popcorn to the roadshow.
I said from the beginning they should release the whole deal without pay rates for a few days first, and this group did exactly as we predicted. Getting all wound up about rumored pay rates without seeing the rest of the deal. SMH.
Also, I find it funny that the same guys who have been screaming "I'M A NO" without having seen an actual TA are now berating people who are saying "I'M A YES" without having seen an actual TA.
(hint: neither is a smart way to approach this)
You guys are a hoot. Bring popcorn to the roadshow.
I said from the beginning they should release the whole deal without pay rates for a few days first, and this group did exactly as we predicted. Getting all wound up about rumored pay rates without seeing the rest of the deal. SMH.
12-17-2023 | 07:00 AM
#237
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 7,573
Likes: 283
From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
That said, I’m looking at the entire TA. There’s a ton of areas that we need to improve on and if they hit it out of the park on the other big items and secured retro that comes close to making us whole, then I suppose I could possibly be okay with being the highest paid 737 pilots in the world.
🔥👇
12-17-2023 | 07:06 AM
#239
gets time off
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,512
Likes: 94
Another that likes to divide and doesn’t get it. That’s what is absolutely rich. Remember the yr 1-5 pilots hired now mostly will have a 35-40 yr career here. So count those 75 rates you will be on for a few years as a win. Just remember those rates they will be under for 30-35 years compound every contract and every raise. They would be fools to be swindled with 75 rates for such a short period. Both should be up there.
12-17-2023 | 07:25 AM
#240
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 4,553
Likes: 397
I never said a freaking thing about 757 pay. I think those leaked rates along with everything else leaked are mostly BS.
FO pay needs fixing. That's all I said. It is a company problem and the company solution is to fix it.
The thing is, if they do fix it, you rabble rousers will be wanking about it because it is somehow stealing from you. GMAFB. You sound like a bunch of cry babies. We are all in this together. Fix the B scale.
FO pay needs fixing. That's all I said. It is a company problem and the company solution is to fix it.
The thing is, if they do fix it, you rabble rousers will be wanking about it because it is somehow stealing from you. GMAFB. You sound like a bunch of cry babies. We are all in this together. Fix the B scale.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
