Originally Posted by mulcher

Another that likes to divide and doesn’t get it. That’s what is absolutely rich. Remember the yr 1-5 pilots hired now mostly will have a 35-40 yr career here. So count those 75 rates you will be on for a few years as a win. Just remember those rates they will be under for 30-35 years compound every contract and every raise. They would be fools to be swindled with 75 rates for such a short period. Both should be up there.

Originally Posted by e6bpilot

I never said a freaking thing about 757 pay. I think those leaked rates along with everything else leaked are mostly BS.
FO pay needs fixing. That's all I said. It is a company problem and the company solution is to fix it.
The thing is, if they do fix it, you rabble rousers will be wanking about it because it is somehow stealing from you. GMAFB. You sound like a bunch of cry babies. We are all in this together. Fix the B scale.

Originally Posted by golfandflows

The captains who are already throwing a temper tantrum about the FO's making 757 pay sure do sound like the "me too" FA's in the van. All while making $350-400k a year. Absolutely rich.

Originally Posted by bmrd

Crew meal pay 20$ for flights over 4 hours

per diem goes to IRS maximum

Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan

Absolutely true. The years 2-5 FOs trailed the curve for years.

Also, I find it funny that the same guys who have been screaming "I'M A NO" without having seen an actual TA are now berating people who are saying "I'M A YES" without having seen an actual TA.

(hint: neither is a smart way to approach this)

You guys are a hoot. Bring popcorn to the roadshow.

I said from the beginning they should release the whole deal without pay rates for a few days first, and this group did exactly as we predicted. Getting all wound up about rumored pay rates without seeing the rest of the deal. SMH.

Originally Posted by Cyio

I agree with you, I am not even talking about pay rates, I just think it is funny how these CA's are saying its not fair they dont get the same bump, but had no issue with the FO's not getting equal bumps in the past. I am a firm maybe vote and I have tried my best to avoid any speculation of what may be in the eventiual contract. I will wait to read it and judge it as a whole.

Originally Posted by bmrd

I just got a sneak peak at the complete contract for about 5 minutes.

FO pay scale is Delta 757 pay rates + 1%
CA pay scale is Delta 737-9 pay rates + 1%

NEC was 17 up to 18. Didn’t get a look at the MBCP

Company paid life insurance 800k

2.5% bonus each year we go without a new contract ratified

ELITT across months, opens on 23rd, ELITT out to 2 days instead of 4

VPF goes away turns into voluntary double time

JA gives you a Personal net zero (PNZ) to drop any day regardless of DTC

Split to cover is almost completely eliminated

“Extended delay pay” 1 TFP for an extended delay within a pairing. No 1:1 duty rig pay after 10 hours.

Retro was big. Totaled 29% I believe, with 23% in 2023. Can’t remember the other numbers.

5 year contract

Crew meal pay 20$ for flights over 4 hours

per diem goes to IRS maximum

Theyre stuck in implementation right now trying to get training bidding implemented. Company wants to push it late into the contract like 2027

There was a hard duty limit stop. Think it was 12 hours. 13.5 if there’s a deadhead.

That’s all I can remember for right now…

Those rumored pay rates that look like they’re made in excel are actually real. They’re within a dollar of the actual rates.

Originally Posted by KaraokeMan

I’m new and may be missing something, but looking at bmrd’s post history, how does this possibly have any credibility??
epic troll post it seems
got everyone real worked up

Originally Posted by Salukidawg

I saw his post history and I too am skeptical of his inside information. I'll wait to read the final product and get my information from official sources before making a final decision.