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Old 02-06-2015 | 04:56 PM
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They're gonna need the crumb buster to clean that engine up.
Old 02-06-2015 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Never saw you as a pull up the ladder kind of guy
Originally Posted by The Juice
Yeah, sorry Joey, but I disagree with the "the company needs to raise it". They don't have to raise it. There will always be regional FOs wanting to come here, and it fills the seats for the company.

I'm going to want competent FOs flying with me in 5 years and I'm more than willing to make sure we do what we can to attract quality, the best we can. Because the company will just continue to promise fast upgrades and pull Riddle kids way before raising the pay on their own.
Im not a pull up the ladder type of guy at all, but let the burden be on the company. It will be advantageous for them to raise first year pay. It will help their bottom line. That's all Im saying
Old 02-06-2015 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade
By (anonymous) on Friday, Feb 6th 2015 20:00Z

"But why the Crew Advanced the Trottes to TOGA Position after a EGT and N2 exceedance? They wanted to kill the Engine like this?"


Incident: Spirit A319 at Dallas on Oct 15th 2013, contained engine failure

This looks bad for the crew. It may get ugly.
CA experience in the bus? 2.5 yr newbie or more experienced?
Old 02-06-2015 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
What do you do when you have an engine problem on takeoff? Verify TOGA? What did you learn when you have engine problem and you were getting your multi engine rating? Firewall it right?

When I have problems at altitude I like to stare at the problem for 10 sec before touching anything. Who knows though what anyone would have done in this situation. I can certainly see toga as in the realm of possibilities.

Safe landing with a fire in weather with no damage except the engine and no lives lost. BRAVO!!!
It looks like they got the Overlimit ECAM at FL190, went TOGA then 4-minutes later the engine went?, at least that's how I'm reading it.

Anyway, take a look at 3.70.19 in the EMERGENCY/ABNORMAL

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Old 02-06-2015 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
Forget what any anonomous poster on the comment section thinks.

Have you seen the ECAM printout for this event?

Crew got the plane safely on the ground and no one was hurt. Better question is why a plane was flying around with "stress corrosion cracking?" Im not a A&P, but that sounds like something that should be inspected routinely.
Agreed. The ECAM list would have taken longer to read then to land the plane. Another NK hit peice.
Old 02-06-2015 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
That's not true, those with less invested have an easier decision if offered another job, not the same decision when you have a few years in
Really. Have you asked any of our new hires who are in there 50's and don't have much time left?
Old 02-06-2015 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
CA experience in the bus? 2.5 yr newbie or more experienced?

Why does it matter?
Old 02-06-2015 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
CA experience in the bus? 2.5 yr newbie or more experienced?
This is irrelevant. So if, and I have no idea, they were a 2.5 year "newbie" this would mean something?

US Airways Flight 1702 had a crew of close to 10,000 hours Airbus time between the two if them and neither knew the incorrect takeoff data was loaded and neither knew to push to TOGA, instead the non-"newbie" CA replied "We'll get that straight when we get airborne."
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Just curious. Experience does matter. If an engine is going all out bonkers and especially overtemping/limits the last one should do is firewall it. I don't know the specifics of the US Air case but I'll read up on it.
Old 02-06-2015 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
It looks like they got the Overlimit ECAM at FL190, went TOGA then 4-minutes later the engine went?, at least that's how I'm reading it.

Anyway, take a look at 3.70.19 in the EMERGENCY/ABNORMAL

I'm not playing Monday morning qtrback, just trying to understand sequence of events
Well the NTSB report states that they received 3 initial ECAM warnings, not sure what the priority is on those 3 and if 3.70.19 EGT Overlimit was the first one for them to go to.

They did receive an EPR mode fault ECAM. So the #1 engine may have degraded into N1 unrated mode, and provided an overboost.
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